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Are You Trying Too Hard To Beat The Market?

In 1981, in front of a packed lecture hall in Rockford College, Illinois, Dean Williams presented what turned out to be a prophetic talk. Unless you’ve lived under a rock for the past 20 years, you’ve undoubtedly been exposed to one of the most liberating investment philosophies of the past half-century. Going back at least as far as the Dean of Wall Street himself, Benjamin Graham , investors have been told to dig deeply into a company’s financials, it’s operating history, and its record of corporate governance to assess whether a stock would prove to be a good purchase or not. Investors who came after Graham widened the circle of study to include items such as competitive position, product quality, and the dreaded “scuttlebutt,” talking to suppliers and employees to get the inside scoop. The work needed to do a “proper” analysis on a company grew remarkably in size while individual investor returns didn’t. A select group of investors have taken a different approach to their investment projects, however. Rather than plunge neck deep into analysis, they prefer to take a drastically simplified view of their investment choices. Rather than thorough qualitative research, they prefer to leverage statistical anomalies based on simple yet highly profitable financial ratios. These investors have come to be known as Quants. When investment manager Dean Williams gave his talk, the legendary investor David Dreman was still in the infancy of his career. Only a handful of professions, such as John Templeton, Irving Kahn, or the legendary Walter Schloss , came close to falling into the quant category… and they were far from household names. Only as more investors adopted a quantitative strategy was it clear just how valuable Williams’ advice was. Williams’ idea was decisively simple, “We probably are trying to hard at what we do. More than that, no matter how hard we try, we may not be as important to the results as we’d like to think we are.” The thought that an investor could actually try too hard to beat the market is still seen skeptically. Beating the market is hard. Every day we face a tsunami of competition from pros and private investors alike trying to beat us out in what is commonly seen as a zero-sum game. But Williams had good reason to take the position he did. It all started with Isaac Newton. “The foundation of Newtonian physics was that physical events are governed by physical laws. Laws that we could understand rationally. And if we learned enough about those laws, we could extend our knowledge and influence over our environment. That was also the foundation of the security analysis, technical analysis, economic theory, and forecasting methods you and I learned about…” But, as Williams explained, security analysis, like Newtonian physics, proved to be misguided. “In the last fifty years a new physics came along. Quantum, or sub-atomic physics…….. events just didn’t seem subject to rational behavior or prediction……… What I have to tell you tonight is that the investment world I think I know anything about is a lot more like quantum physics than it is like Newtonian physics. There’s just too much evidence that our knowledge of what governs financial and economic events isn’t nearly what we thought it would be.” When added to Williams’ second observation, the combination proves devastating for modern investors. “The second idea …is that most of us spend a lot of our time doing something that human beings just don’t do very well. Predicting things. ……where’s the evidence that it works? I’ve been looking for it. Really. Here are my conclusions: Confidence in a forecast rises with the amount of information that goes into it. But the accuracy of the forecast stays the same. And when it comes to forecasting – as opposed to doing something – a lot of expertise is no better than a little expertise.” The idea that more information does not necessarily make for better predictions drives a stake through the heart of most investment analysis. Consider the mistaken modern day Buffetteers who are basing their investment strategies on discounted cash flow valuations or copper traders that use information from a wealth of different sources to form their purchase decisions. More information does not necessarily mean better judgments. But, investors shouldn’t be so pessimistic about this state of affairs, according to Williams. Instead, investors should see it as liberating. “The consolation prize is pretty consoling, actually. It’s that you can be a successful investor without being a perpetual forecaster.” So how, then, is an investor expected to profit in the stock market? Again, Williams’ thoughts are decidedly simple. “If there is a reliable and helpful principle at work in our markets, my choice would be the one the statisticians call “regression to the mean”. The tendency toward average profitability is a fundamental, if now the fundamental principle of competitive markets. It’s an inevitable force, pushing those profits and their valuations back to the average. It can be a powerful investment tool. It can, almost by itself, select cheap portfolios and avoid expensive ones.” But leveraging investment returns still involves an investment strategy, and an investment strategy still requires human interaction and judgment on some level. Humans, when it comes down to it, are the ones that ultimately still decide which stocks to buy and sell. How are we supposed to invest in Dean Williams’ world? “Simple approaches. Albert Einstein said that “…most of the fundamental ideas of science are essentially simple and may, as a rule, be expressed in a language comprehensible to everyone”. ………as long as there are people out there who can beat us using dart boards, I urge us all to respect the virtues of a simple investment plan.” This is exactly the approach that I’ve taken to invest my own savings. Ultimately, selecting high quality net net stocks is not rocket science. It comes down to selecting stocks that show simple, yet promising, characteristics. Finding these companies does not require hours of time spent talking to suppliers or reading industry profiles. It really comes down to basing your investment decisions off of a few simple balance sheet and income statement calculations. But, while simplicity is a virtue, it’s not enough to guarantee great returns. Another key characteristic comes into play when building a great track. Williams continues, “Consistent approaches. Look at the best funds for the past ten years or more. …What did they have in common? ………it was that whatever their investment plans were, they had the discipline and good sense to carry them out consistently.” In my experience, nothing destroys an investor’s best chance for outstanding returns over the course of his life like the inability to commit. It’s the failure to stick to a promising strategy due to the inability to stomach short term variance or just the tendency to drift between styles that really sabotages an investor. As I’ve written to those who’ve requested free high quality net net stock picks , sticking with a great strategy is far more important than being the most knowledgeable investor. According to Williams, all of this suggests that investors should be approaching their work from a different orientation. “How are most of us organized? To gather information and use it to make predictions. ……..For all of this to make any sense, we all have to believe we can generate information which is unknown to the market as a whole. There’s an approach which is simpler and probably stands a better chance of working. Spend your time measuring value instead of generating information. Don’t forecast. Buy what’s cheap today.” Talk about liberating! Williams wasn’t kidding. In fact, this has been my approach since adopting Graham’s famous net net stocks strategy. Picking high quality international net nets and leveraging the great statistical returns associated with them has proven to be a much more profitable , and much less strenuous, approach to investing. But there’s another aspect of this type of investing that I didn’t grasp at first. The longer I invested in net nets, however, the more clearly this came into focus. Williams explains, “Like those who study quantum physics, we should be more content with probabilities and admit that we really know very little.” So, how can we leverage these probabilities to earn good returns? He continues, “…if you’re going to manage money mechanically, a good rule is: Buy the stocks with the lowest multiples. Imagine two portfolios. One has stocks we all agree are the “best” companies, with the best prospects for growth. And they’re priced that way. To justify those prices they all have to meet our expectations. But we know that some of them won’t. They’ll disappoint us. The other portfolio has all the companies we don’t like or don’t care about. They’re priced on low expectations. But we know that some of them will surprise us and do well. And since we haven’t paid for the expectation that any will do well, that’s the portfolio with the odds in its favor.” Admitting how little we actually know about the future is a fundamental aspect of good investing. Rather than destroying our chances of earning great returns, admitting our own fallibility sets us up for a different sort of investing – buying a diversified list of stocks with the odds of good returns, as a group, in our favour. Arriving at that group of stocks involves ignoring market, industry, or company forecasts and basing our decisions on hard facts. Those hard facts come down to assessing the firm’s financial position, its current valuation, and the returns on offer from a proven investment strategy. This is essentially the approach I’ve taken for my own portfolio. Proper investing involves getting ‘Meta’. Why would you be content to drift between styles, at worst embracing a haphazard approach to investing or at best using a strategy that’s not optimal for your time, effort, and finances? You really have to take a step back from looking at stocks to assess what it is you’re actually doing as an investor. For me, that amounted to researching many different investing styles before arriving at Graham’s net nets . Probabilities are an interesting thing. You can be right on each one of your picks without all of them working out. After all, you’re not right in the stock market merely because your stock has gone up; and, you’re not necessarily wrong if it hasn’t. Leveraging probabilities means putting together a portfolio of stocks that, as a group, has a better chance than not of working out. It also means recognizing that some of your stocks will disappoint and your portfolio won’t work out each and every year. Williams continues, “The last of the mental qualities we talked about was consistency …and how it seemed to be present in nearly all outstanding investment records. You’re familiar with the periodic rankings of past investment results published in Pensions & Investment Age. You may have missed the news that for the last 10 years the best investment record in the country belonged to the Citizens Bank and Trust Company of Chillicothe, Missouri. Forbes magazine did not miss it, though, and sent a reporter to Chillicothe to find the genius responsible for it. He found a 72 year old man named Edgerton Welch, who said he’d never heard of Benjamin Graham and didn’t have any idea what modern portfolio theory was. “Well, how did you do it,” the reporter wanted to know. Mr. Welch showed the reporter his copy of Value Line and said he brought all the stocks ranked “1” that Merrill Lynch or E.F. Hutton also liked. And when any one of the three changed their ratings, he sold. Mr. Welch said, “It’s like owning a computer. When you get the printout, use the figures to make a decision – not your own impulse.” The Forbes reporter finally concluded, “His secret isn’t the system but his own consistency.” Exactly. That’s what Garfield Drew, the market writer, meant forty years ago when he said, “In fact, simplicity or singleness of approach is a greatly underestimated factor of market success.” And that’s really what it comes down to. Unlike those who have fallen into the Warren Buffett trap , spend time finding a proven strategy that’s simple to use in practice and then stick to it. Doing so will mean shifting your chance of earning great investment returns over the course of your life so that the odds are in your favour. So really, are you trying too hard? Disclosure: I/we have no positions in any stocks mentioned, and no plans to initiate any positions within the next 72 hours. I wrote this article myself, and it expresses my own opinions. I am not receiving compensation for it. I have no business relationship with any company whose stock is mentioned in this article.

Videogame Stock Roundup: Activision Disappoints, Zynga Beats, AR/VR Summit Grabs Limelight

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Portland General Electric Co.’s (POR) CEO Jim Piro on Q4 2015 Results – Earnings Call Transcript

Operator Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Portland General Electric Company’s Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2015 Earnings Results Conference Call. Today is Friday, February 12, 2016. This call is being recorded, and as such, all lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers’ remarks, there will be a question-and-answer period. [Operator Instructions] For opening remarks, I would like to turn the conference call over to Portland General Electric’s Director of Investor Relations, Mr. Bill Valach. Please go ahead, sir. William Valach Thank you, Candice, and good morning to everyone. I’m pleased that you’re able to join us today. And before we begin our discussion this morning, I’d like to remind you that we have prepared a presentation to supplement our discussion today, which we’ll be referencing throughout the call. The slides are available on our website at portlandgeneral.com. Referring to slide two, I’d also like to make our customary statements regarding Portland General Electric’s written and oral disclosures and commentary that there will be statements in this call that are not based on historical facts, and as such, constitute forward-looking statements under current law. These statements are subject to factors that may cause actual results to differ materially from the forward-looking statements made today. And for a description of the factors that may occur that could cause such differences, the company requests that you read our most recent Form 10-K and Form 10-Qs. Portland General Electric’s fourth quarter and full year earnings release were released via our earnings press release and the 2015 annual Form 10-K before the market open today, and the release is available at our website at portlandgeneral.com. The company undertakes no obligation to update publicly any forward-looking statements whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise, and this Safe Harbor statement should be incorporated as a part of any transcript of this call. As shown on slide three, leading our discussion today are Jim Piro, President and CEO; and Jim Lobdell, Senior Vice President of Finance, CFO and Treasurer. Jim Piro will begin today’s presentation by providing updates on our operational performance, on Carty construction, our service area economy, and our integrated resource plan. Then, Jim Lobdell will provide more detail around the fourth quarter and full year results, our financing and liquidity, and discuss our outlook for 2016. Following these prepared remarks, we will open the lineup for your questions. And now, it’s my pleasure to turn the call over to Jim Piro. Jim Piro Thanks, Bill. Good morning and thank you for joining us. Welcome to Portland General Electric’s fourth quarter and full year 2015 earnings call. In 2015, we achieved several key objectives towards meeting our customers’ energy needs, and I’m pleased to share our results with you this morning. On today’s call, I’ll provide an overview of our financial results in 2015 and initiate 2016 earnings guidance, give you an update on our operating performance, provide an update on construction at Carty, summarize the economic conditions in our operating area, and outline the status of our 2016 integrated resource plan. Following my remarks, Jim Lobdell will provide details on the fourth quarter, and annual financial results, and end with our key assumptions supporting our outlook for 2016. So let’s begin. As presented on slide four, we recorded net income of $172 million or $2.04 per diluted share in 2015, compared with net income of a $175 million or $2.18 per diluted share in 2014. This decrease in earnings per share was largely due to a record warm winter that resulted in lower residential energy sales compounded by lower than budgeted hydro, wind and the associated lower production tax credits and higher replacement power costs. Management took prudent actions and through temporary operation and maintenance reductions offset approximately $0.09 per share of the financial impacts from weather and power costs. Now looking ahead for 2016, we are initiating full-year earnings guidance of $2.20 to $2.35 per diluted share, which reflects warmer than normal weather and lower wind production in January. Jim will provide more details later in the call. Now for an operational update on slide five, employees across the company did an excellent job in 2015 of improving efficiency, reducing costs and executing our business strategy to deliver value to our customers, shareholders, employees and the communities we serve. Our customer satisfaction remains very high in all segments. Residential business and key customers placed us in the top quartile or better for satisfaction, favorability and trust according to the latest survey results. Also our 2015 generating plant availability was excellent at an average of more than 92% across all of the resources PGE operates. 2015 was the warmest year on record in Oregon. The effects of weather impacted earnings by reducing energy deliveries to the residential sector, especially during the first quarter. As a result, management not only took actions to temporarily reduce operating and maintenance costs, but also worked diligently to ensure our delivery system and generating facilities operated extremely well. These actions were critical factors in helping to address the challenges posed by weather and higher power costs throughout the year. In 2015, we continue to demonstrate our leadership in delivering renewable energy and other programs to our customers. In addition to maintaining our standing as the number one renewable program in the nation, we won new awards, established a new offering for our customers and hit a new milestone. Our achievements included PGE’s two wholly-owned wind farms were recognized for being both safe and sustainable. Our newest wind farm Tucannon River is the first energy project in the nation to win the Envision sustainable infrastructure gold award from the Institute of Sustainable Infrastructure. This award was based on PGE’s contributions related to quality of life, leadership, resource allocation, the natural world and climate risk. Our other wind farm Biglow Canyon earned a Safety and Health Achievement Recognition Award, referred to as SHARP from the Oregon Occupational Safety & Health Division. This is the first time a wind project has qualified for SHARP certification in Oregon and only the second wind project in the United States. Also we enrolled – also we opened enrollment on a new renewable power option that enables customers to purchase output from a new 3-magawatt solar installation in the Willamette Valley, providing a way for more customers to support solar generation. And finally, our dispatchable standby generation program passed the 100 megawatt mark. This cost effective customer program helps meet regulatory requirements for non-spinning reserves. I’m very proud of these achievements. Now, turning to slide six for an update on our Carty Generating Station. On December 18, we declared Abeinsa, our engineering, procurement and construction contractor on Carty in default under multiple provisions of the Carty Construction agreement, and we terminated the agreement. As a part of the original construction agreement, PGE required Abeinsa to provide a performance bond to guarantee satisfactory completion of the project, in the event Abeinsa failed to fulfill their contractual obligations. The performance bond was provided by two sureties, Liberty Mutual Surety and Zurich North America for a $145.6 million. Following termination of the construction agreement, PGE in consultation with the Sureties, brought on new contractors and construction resumed during the week of December 21, 2015. Currently, we estimate the total capital expenditures for Carty will be in the range of $620 million to $655 million, including AFDC, and before considering any amounts received from the sureties under the performance bond. And we are targeting an in-service date in July of 2016. The prior Carty construction estimate of $514 million in capital costs, including AFDC was approved by the Oregon Public Utility Commission in the 2016 general rate case. We are currently in discussions with the Sureties regarding their obligations under the performance bond. And we believe they have an obligation under the performance bond to contribute funds towards completing the Carty project. In the event the total cost incurred by PGE for Carty less any amounts received from the sureties under the performance bond exceeds the OPUC approved amount of $514 million or the plant is delayed past July 31, 2016 the company would pursue one or more avenues for regulatory recovery. With regard to an update on the actual construction, all major components are on-site and are currently more than 700 construction workers on-site representing key contractors, including Day & Zimmerman, Sargent & Lundy, and Black & Veatch. Now to move to slide seven, where we provide a summary of the company’s current capital expenditure forecasts from 2016 to 2020. These amounts potentially could be augmented with incremental investment related to natural gas supply, system reliability and operational efficiencies that provide value to our customers. In addition, the graph does not include any potential capital projects from the outcome of our 2016 integrated resource planning process. We will continue to provide updates on our capital expenditure forecast in future earnings calls. Turning to slide eight, Oregon continues to exhibit several positive economic trends. First, unemployment in Oregon in December was 5.4% and approaching the range considered full-employment. Unemployment in our service area was even lower at 4.7% and compares favorably to the U.S. unemployment rate of 5%. Secondly, overall business expansion and new real estate investments continued in 2015. Investors have targeted Portland as a desirable West Coast location as evidenced by the large number of real estate transactions during the year and proposed new projects. With growth in both the number of local startups and in large Silicon Valley companies locating offices in the region, the Portland Metro area has become one of the fastest growing areas for high-tech employment. In addition, large high-tech industrial customers continue to expand their service area and contribute to weather-adjusted load growth of more than 2% in 2015 over 2014. This is net of approximately 1.5% in energy efficiency and excludes one large paper company who ceased operations in late 2015. Finally, Oregon was once again the number one state for in migration in 2015, according to a study from United Van Lines issued in January 2016 this is the third year in a row that Oregon has received the number one rating. PG’s average customer count continues to increase at approximately 1% year-over-year and looking forward, we expect weather-adjusted load growth in 2016 of 1%, net of approximately 1.5% in energy efficiency and excluding the one large paper company. On to slide nine. With regard to the integrated resource plan, we plan to file the 2016 IRP in the second half of 2016. The IRP assumes a 20-year planning horizon with an action plan for the period 2017 through 2021. The plan will address multiple issues including replacement of our Boardman Plant, which will cease operating on coal at the end of 2020, meeting the renewable portfolio standard of 20% by 2020, additional energy efficiency and demand side actions, additional capacity that needs to meet our customers, and several other topics. Now, I’d like to turn the call over to Jim Lobdell, who will go into more depth on our financial and operating results for 2015, and provide the assumptions for our 2016 earnings guidance. Jim? James Lobdell Thank you, Jim. Turning to slide 10. For the fourth quarter of 2015, we recorded a net income of $51 million or $0.57 per diluted share, compared to net income of $43 million or $0.55 per diluted share for the fourth quarter of 2014. This increase was primarily driven by the addition of Port Westward Unit 2 and the Tucannon River Wind Farm in customer prices, AFDC related to the construction of the Carty Generating plant, and a reduction to O&M in the fourth quarter of this year, offset by an increase in share count 2015, related to the final draw in June under the Equity Forward Sale Agreement. Also, targeted earnings for the fourth quarter 2015 were reduced by warm weather, which had a negative impact of $0.05 in comparison to normal. As shown on slide 11, for the full year 2015, we recorded net income of a $172 million or $2.04 per diluted share, compared with the $175 million or $2.18 per diluted share for 2014. This decrease was largely due to the warmest year on record in Oregon, resulting in lower residential energy sales, compounded by lower than planned hydro and wind conditions, resulting in higher replacement power costs, and lower than anticipated production tax credits, and an increase in share count due to the timing of the final draw under the Equity Forward Sale Agreement. These decreases were partially offset by earnings from two additional generating clients, placed in service, Carty AFDC and a strong effort to temporarily reduce O&M spending for the year. Moving onto slide 12. For the full year, total revenues decreased $2 million. This decrease in revenues was primarily due to a reduction in residential energy deliveries, in addition to lower wholesale and other revenues. These decreases were partially offset by a 1% increase in customer prices. Purchased power and fuel expense decreased $52 million year-over-year, driven by an 8% decline in the average variable power cost per megawatt hour. The decrease was largely driven by a 3% decrease in the average price of purchase power and the economic displacement of Boardman in 2015. Net variable power costs is reported for regulatory purposes were $3 million below the baseline of the power costs adjustment mechanism. However, when adjusting for a couple of one-time transactions which did not flow to the company’s income statement. In 2015, net variable power costs were $6 million above the baseline, reflecting lower wind and hydro generation, partially offset by optimization of the overall power supply portfolio. This compares to $7 million below in 2014. Moving on to slide 13, operating and maintenance costs totaled $507 million in 2015, $23 million higher than in 2014 and $13 million below the midpoint of our original 2015 guidance range of $510 million to $530 million. The higher costs in 2015 were driven primarily by the following increases, $9 million and costs related to the addition of the Port Westward Unit 2 and Tucannon River Wind Farm and $14 million in administrative and general costs including $5 million increase in information and technology expense and an increase of $3 million in non-labor and outside services expense. The reduction in O&M spending relative to our original guidance reflects the company’s commitment to attempt to offset reduced earnings from warm weather in the first quarter of 2015. Depreciation and amortization expense was at the midpoint of our guidance range and increased $4 million of $301 million in 2014 to $305 million in 2015. The increase was primarily driven by a $26 million increase expense and the capital additions offset by a $22 million reduction of the amortization of deferred regulatory liabilities from the Trojan spent fuel settlement and tax credits as they were refunded to customers in 2015. Interest expense increased $18 million in 2015 compared to 2014. This was driven primarily by a $9 million increase resulting from lower allowance for borrowed funds used during construction, combined with a $7 million increase in interest expense due to higher debt outstanding in 2015. Other income net decreased $16 million year-over-year as a result of the $16 million decrease and the allowance for equity funds used during construction as the Tucannon River Wind Farm and Post Westward Unit 2 were put into service in December 2014. Lastly, income tax has decreased $16 million year-over-year, largely due to a $14 million increase in production tax credit and the addition of the Tucannon River Wind Farm. The company’s effective tax rate decreased to 20.7% from 26% in 2014. We did not take bonus depreciation in 2015, and we have not taken it since 2010, because we have favored using production tax credits and other state tax credits with expiration dates over using bonus depreciation. Given the extension of the bonus depreciation through 2019, we will continue to assess our approach each year. On to slide 14, we continue to maintain a solid balance sheet, including strong liquidity and investment grade credit ratings. As of December 31, 2015, we had $550 million in cash, available short-term credit and letter of credit capacity, $867 million of first mortgage bond issuance capacity and the common equity ratio of 50.5%. The company has a $500 million revolving credit facility to meet the company’s liquidity needs, which has a maturity date of November 2019. The company has additional letter of credit facilities totaling $160 million. In January of this year, PGE issued a $140 million of 2.51% Series First Mortgage Bonds, which were used to fund an early redemption of two outstanding Series First Mortgage Bonds. The company plans to potentially issue up to an additional an $160 million of long-term debt in 2016. Moving onto slide 15, on November 3, 2015, The Oregon Public Utility Commission issued an order that when combined with customer credits results in an overall increase in customer prices of approximately 0.7%. These prices were effective in two phases, a 2.5% decrease in the January 1, 2016, and a 3.3% increase when Carty comes into service, provided it happens by July 31, 2016. The changing customer prices will reflect a return on equity of 9.6%, a capital structure of 50% debt and 50% equity, a cost of capital of 7.51%, a rate base of $4.4 billion, and an annual revenue increase of $12 million. As shown on slide 16, we’re initiating full year 2016 earnings guidance of $2.20 to $2.35 per diluted share. This guidance is based on warmer than normal weather, and lower wind production in January 2016, which resulted in roughly an $0.08 impact on earnings. Additional assumptions include the following: retail delivery growth of approximately 1%, weather adjusted, and excluding one large paper company; average hydro conditions, wind generation based on five years of historic production or forecasted studies when historical data isn’t available; normal internal plant operations, operating and maintenance costs between $515 million and $535 million; depreciation and amortization expense between $315 million and $325 million; and the Carty Generating Station in service by July 2016, at approximately the OPUC authorized capital amount of $514 million. Back to you, Jim. Jim Piro Thanks. As we begin 2016, we are moving forward on initiatives that drive value for our customers and shareholders. Slide 17 displays our key objectives for 2016. First, maintain our high level of operational excellence with a focus on employee and public safety, meeting our operational and performance goals and meeting our financial performance targets. Second, bring Carty Generating Station into service, on or before July 31, 2016. And third work collaboratively, with all of our stakeholders, to prepare our 2016 integrated resource plan and its associated action plan, to meet our customer’s future energy needs, using resources that provide the best long-term balance of cost and risk. And now operator, we are ready for questions. Question-and-Answer Session Operator Thank you. [Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from Michael Weinstein of UBS. Your line is now open. Michael Weinstein Hi, good morning. Jim Piro Good morning, Michael. James Lobdell Good morning. Michael Weinstein Hey on the results for 2015, where you say that you have a temporary reduction O&M of about $0.09 I believe you said at the beginning of the call. Jim Piro Yes. Michael Weinstein Okay. So, why is that temporary and I’m guessing that since, it’s temporary does that $0.09 is now responsible for higher O&M in 2016 guidance. So, going forward in 2017, we would subtract that $0.09 out again to normalize? James Lobdell No, Mike, I wouldn’t do that. What we did in 2015 was to the extent that we could push off any particular activities and not impact safety and reliability or customer satisfaction, we took account for that, but I wouldn’t add that back into the following year, or just pick a point in time. We still need to assess or what needs to happen there. Jim Piro Yeah. In 2016, our O&M is in line with what was allowed in the general rate case and that’s for work that needs to be done on our system, to meet our reliability and customer service obligation. What we looked at in 2015, we’re delaying some types of work and it’s not something we can do permanently. Michael Weinstein Right. And also on the Carty project, is there any chance that you guys can finish the project before July right now or is it something you’re willing to talk about in terms of is the project ahead of schedule or is it exactly on schedule and any slippage might be a problem? Jim Piro Well, we have a schedule and it has us completing the project in July and we have some room, but everything is going to have to go perfect. We have to go through the startup, we have to get all the construction work completed. As I mentioned earlier, we’ve mobilized enough people on the site to do the work. Now, we have to see the productivity and we have to see everything go as we have planned. And so, we’re going to watch it pretty carefully. We’ll know a lot more at our next earnings call. But I would say everything is fully going at this point, and we’re moving and things are happening out at the site. Michael Weinstein At what point do you think you’ll finish negotiating with the surety providers to figure out exactly how much they are going to assume? Jim Piro That’s going to be a process. We do have a meeting scheduled in March, but that will be just the first step in the process with them. Michael Weinstein Okay. All right. Thank you very much. Operator Thank you. And our next question comes from Paul Ridzon of KeyBanc. Your line is now open. Paul Ridzon Good morning. How are you? Jim Piro Good morning. James Lobdell Good morning, Paul. Paul Ridzon Can you parse out the $0.08 headwind we’re facing? How much of that is wind and versus weather? James Lobdell Most of that is all weather, and about $0.02 of it represents wind. And then there’s the PTCs in there as well, which is about a $0.015. Paul Ridzon Okay. Just back to Mike’s question, so how much of the $0.09, how much was deferring versus actually just not doing, and then how much of that $0.09 is creeping into 2016? Jim Piro The O&M forecast that we have provided the range is to do the work we need to do in 2016. Things that we didn’t get done in 2015 or delayed are basically incorporated in our budget for 2016. So, we have a budget now. We have a work we have to get completed and I think we are aligned with our budget for this year. James Lobdell And that’s embedded in our guidance. Paul Ridzon Okay. And then just on history of Carty, $514 million was approved and now you’re looking $620 million or more. What kind of – what’s the delta there? James Lobdell [With cost] [ph] $140 million, we took the high-end versus the $514 million. So basically what we’ve got there is we have to remove liens that have been [perfected] [ph] associated with the site. We’ve got a lot of rework that needs to be done, cost to complete the construction, which is construction and start-up, site stabilization, there are delayed costs that can include productivity, AFUDC and contingency and other costs. Paul Ridzon You are successful in securing the full surety Carty will come in under budget? Jim Piro Well, I think it’ll come in pretty much at budget. I think the 514 included the contractor meeting the obligations under the agreement. So, our sense would be is if the sureties do what we think they’re responsible for doing, we would come in at our budget amount. Paul Ridzon Okay. Thank you very much. James Lobdell Thanks, Paul. Operator Thank you. And our next question comes from Chris Turnure of JPMorgan. Your line is now open. Jim Piro Good morning, Chris. Chris Turnure Good morning, guys. James Lobdell Good morning, Chris. Chris Turnure Could you give some more color on Carty? Just another question on that front. How do you plan on financing the incremental cash that you’re going to need to fund that this year? And have you had any conversations with the commission yet, and kind of walking them through what’s gone wrong throughout the process and to the degree that you kind of do about it even before late December? James Lobdell Well, the first part of the question is, how are we going to go about funding the incremental capital associated with the project. I think as we have mentioned previously, we’ve got plenty of capacity under our short-term [earnings] [ph] access to bank loans that we can provide in order to cover any incremental costs that we have to fund that we’re not getting from the sureties associated with the project. On the regulatory side… Jim Piro Yeah. I can cover that. We’ve been keeping the PUC informed throughout the process. We recently have been asked to provide an update on Carty through a public meeting. However, it hasn’t been scheduled yet. Probably, that meeting would happen sometime in March or April. Chris Turnure Okay. And have you disclosed how much, let’s say a one month delay in the project past July 31 would mean for EPS? James Lobdell No. We haven’t. Chris Turnure Okay. And then, my second question is just on the legislation now kind of making its way through the legislature over there. Can you give me some color on what do you think the chances of passage are, and then what that would mean for the next, let’s say five to seven years of capital deployment and renewable growth opportunities for you guys, because certainly in the long-term it would be a big benefit, but I am focused a little bit more on the near-term. Jim Piro Yeah. So let me give you an update on it, it’s called the Oregon Clean Electricity plan, it’s called H.B. 4036 is the actual bill number. It just passed out of the House Energy and Environmental Committee on a 6-4 vote. It will now go to the floor for a vote at the House level. Assuming if it passes there than it would move to the Senate Committee, and then work its way through the Senate. The bill essentially does two major things; number one, it eliminates coal in Oregon by 2030 and for us up to five years later for Colstrip up to 2035. And then it increases our renewable portfolio standard targets, mostly in the out year. So it’s a 50% standard by 2040. The interim targets are 27% in 2025 versus the current RPS standard of 25%. 35% by 2030, 45% by 2035 and 50% by 2040. So you can see from those new numbers, the bulk of the changes would be in the outer years, as we go to a 50% RPS standard. This will all be factored into our integrated resource plan as we work through the process in this case, because we wouldn’t want to go long generation as we think about a higher RPS standard. So, it’s all been factored into our planning at this point, but it is all dependent on that law passing the legislature and signed by the Governor. So, that’s kind of where it is. We have got support, a number of people are supporting the measure, and there is some opposition to the measure. So, we’ll just have to see how it plays out. Chris Turnure Great. That’s helpful. Thanks. Operator Thank you. And our next question comes from Brian Russo of Ladenburg Thalmann. Your line is now open. Brian Russo Hi, good morning. Jim Piro Good morning. Brian Russo Could you just remind us the amount of capacity you need to meet the 20% RPS in 2020, any backup capacity necessary and then, the number of megawatts you need to replace on Boardman? Jim Piro So, in 2020, the RPS standard goes another 5%. It’s probably a very similar to Tucannon River Wind Farm, it’s probably around 100 average megawatts. So, it’d be very similar to adding another Tucannon River Wind Farm. If you’re thinking about the size of that, that was about 267 megawatt of nameplate capacity. So, a lot of it will depend on capacity factor. So, that’s kind of what we’re looking at it. The timing of that still kind of up in the air. With the extension of the PTCs, we’ll have to evaluate when is the right timing for that unit, because we do have renewable energy credits that we can apply. And so, we’re looking at what’s the right timing of that, especially given the extension of the production tax credit. That will all be a topic of our integrated resource planning discussion. As it relates to Boardman, our piece of the capacity is about 520 megawatts, hydropower owns 10% of the project. And so, that is again being evaluated on what to – how we replace Boardman in the IRP. Obviously, I think, prior to H.B. 4036, I think our thinking was likely a natural gas prior plant would be that the type of thing we would do, and we would do and we will have to do an RFP like we did before, but as you know, we’ve said before, Carty has been designed as the two-unit site. So, it would be a very good site to look at the second unit there. But with a 50% RPS standard, we have to kind of consider the entire mix in the long-term trajectory and what’s the right kinds of resources we’re going to need. So, it’s not clear to me at this point, what we will do to replace Boardman, whether it will be more capacity in renewables or base load gas generation. So, that really is the topic of the IRP and we’re just now in the process of developing portfolios that we can look at to see what provides the best balance of cost and risk going forward. Brian Russo And would you need backup power for the – an additional wind farm? Jim Piro Yeah. As we look at the renewables, as you know, they are not firm energy, at least we haven’t found at this point that really correlate directly with our loads. So, it would be a wind farm, backed up by some type of capacity resource, either a simple cycle turbines or reciprocating engines like Port Westward Unit 2. Again, we have capacity needs. That’s something that’s been identified in the integrated resource plant as we look at what our loss of load probability study show us. And so, that is going to have to be addressed also. But our sense is, we’re going to need additional capacity as we go to a higher RPS standard. Brian Russo Okay. So, just back of the envelope $1,100 a KW for CCGT and maybe $1,500 a KW for wind, I know you talked in probably a $1 billion of potential spend, is that reasonable? Jim Piro Potentially, again, as you know, we have to go through an RFP. We have to ensure that we have the least cost, lowest risk projects to bring forward. As we’ve said before, we would always want to include our own self build options and I think we’ve demonstrated from the construction of Port Westward Unit 2 and Tucannon, that we can deliver those projects on time and on budget. So, we will want to provide our own projects. We have some sites that are very competitive sites, at least on the gas side, and we’ll continue to look for those wind farms, and wind projects that can meet our renewable standard. Brian Russo And when would you expect to get acknowledgement from the OPUC, and when would be RFP process start, and then finish? Jim Piro Probably in 2017, we expect the acknowledgement from the commission. James Lobdell We’ll file in the later part of this year. We would expect a position decision in early part of 2017. Then, we will go into an RFP process, where hopefully we’d know the decision by late 2018 and then, move forward from there. Brian Russo Okay. Great. And then, what are the regulatory options for recovery of the Carty costs above what’s in the general rate case? Jim Piro Well, there’s couple of things. First of all, it depends on what the number is. Obviously, if we’re above that, but only slightly, we’ll evaluate that, and we’ll have to understand the reasons for that. But, the way we would do that is through general rate case, and next subsequent rate case. At this point, we’re not planning on filing a 2017 general rate case, looking to 2018 as a potential. We will then file that case with what we think our prudent capital costs, and we will go through the process to support those costs. If the project is delayed beyond July 31, we will enter into discussions with the stakeholder groups to talk about options to recover the costs. A lot of it will be dependent on when that project will be going online, and we’ll determine what’s the best way to move that forward. We have options and – but a lot of it depends on when that project would come online. Brian Russo Okay. And then, I assume that midpoint of your guidance assumes a zero balance on the PCAM? James Lobdell Yes. Brian Russo And when was the net variable cost set in terms of gas prices or prevailing commodity prices? James Lobdell It was set in November, when we file our final update, which includes cost curves and all our contracts that we have in place. Usually, we’re about 95% hedged against our forward position. So, we’ve locked in those financial or physical contracts on gas as well as any electric purchase contracts. So we’re pretty balanced in November. So, than the variabilities we deal with are hydro, wind and plant availability. So those are things that we feel. The good news is that hydro is about normal this year. We’ve had a really good snowpack early on and we’ll have to see how it goes for the rest of the year, because that normal forecast does assumes normal precipitation for the rest of the cycle. So, we’ll watch that pretty carefully as we see a snowpack build hopefully. Brian Russo And what appears to be lower gas prices now versus I guess what was implied in November, are you able to optimize your generation fleet to kind of capture that spread, so to speak? James Lobdell Not necessarily. A lot of it will depend on what happens in markets in terms of opportunity, but our plans are committed to meet our retail load. And so, we’ve already locked in essentially the gas price for those plants to run and meet our retail load. There may be some opportunity, but probably the only real value is that, if for example, we have lower wind, a lower gas prices would lower our replacement cost instantly with hydro. But on the flipside, if we have a lot of hydro, low gas prices depressed the market price, so we don’t get as much value. So it has kind of pluses and minuses as we think about it. But right now, we’re hedged against where our loads and resources are. Brian Russo Okay. Thank you. Operator Thank you. And our next question comes from Michael Lapides of Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open. Jim Piro Hi, Michael. James Lobdell Hi, Michael. Michael Lapides Hey, guys. Congrats on a good year and a good start to 2016. Just curious, thinking about the RFP process and thinking about the IRP as well, does the State of Oregon need capacity or energy or does simply your service territory does and so one of the alternatives in all of this process could be simply increasing the amount of power that could be sent into the Greater Portland area from other parts of the state. The reason that’s, I’m kind of thinking through that is, there are – we’ve seen in other states over the years, Louisiana, Mississippi great example of this also in the desert Southwest, where merchant projects that were in a state like in Oregon or like Louisiana or Arizona, roundup getting bid into RFPs and sold at a price that was well below new build cost. Now, some of the ones in your state, they’re not really in downtown Portland, so there it have to be a transmission alternative, but I think that largely will depend on, is it a state need or is it a part of the state need for new capacity in energy? Jim Piro So, let me talk about that generally. In the last IRP, projects that were available or bid in, and they were not competitive with new generation, just because of higher heat rates and older units. So they were not successful. And to that extent, nothing has been built since then to my knowledge in the region in terms of new gas fire generation. James Lobdell And then, on top of that, you got several plants that will be taken out of the regional mix, but essentially are the – plants will be going away, Boardman will be going away in 2020, and what has been added to the market place has been mostly in variable energy resources… Jim Piro Under a contract. James Lobdell Yeah. Jim Piro Typically under contract. So, you think about Oregon, and maybe the region, I see has been more capacity deficit, our study show that. And there is just not capacity sitting on the sideline. On an energy basis, it’s a really kind of tough issue as we see all these renewables show up in the system. Obviously, what’s going on in California with the Duck Curve and all the solar energy down there, those are the things we’re looking at, but the strong to California is only so large. And so, we have to think about the reliability of that supply as well as the costs. So, those are things that we are evaluating in the IRP, but I would clearly say, there is a need for additional capacity in the region, especially as we add in more variable resources. Michael Lapides Got it, guys. Thanks. One follow-up, unrelated to that. You made some minor changes to your base CapEx forecast in today’s disclosure. Can you just kind of walk us through what drove those changes? James Lobdell Yeah. Effectively, it was just a shifting of dollars associated with our customer information, and meter data management project, and that was essentially it. Michael Lapides Meaning, moving stuff into 2016 from it, can you just like – which years went up, which years went down and what was the – and was that the main driver of that, when I think about 2016, 2017, 2018 or so? James Lobdell Well, the movement of dollars from 2017 to 2016. Michael Lapides Got it. Okay. So, you just moved up the project a little bit. James Lobdell Yes. Michael Lapides Got it. Thanks, guys. Much appreciate it. James Lobdell Thanks Mike. Operator Thank you. [Operator Instructions] And our next question comes from Paul Patterson of Glenrock. Your line is now open. Paul Patterson Good morning. Jim Piro Hi Paul. Paul Patterson Just on H.B. 4036, looks quite ambitious, and I haven’t checked. When it passed, I guess it was about yesterday. Were there amendments that addressed some of the issues that I guess are being brought up by the Oregon PUC? I guess, was there any big changes, or would those issues addressed or do you think that – I mean, it looks like it passed with a pretty good margin, I mean I’m just sort of wondering? Jim Piro Yeah. It passed to explore, I don’t recall if there is – I was talking to Dave yesterday, there weren’t any major amendments, and there might have been a few tweaks, but nothing that was material to way legislation would setup. I think the important thing to note is that it does still have the cost cap, and that’s currently in the legislation today. It also added another standard around reliability. So it has provided certain protections for our consumers that we think are adequate to address the concerns the commission has raised. Our evaluation looking at price impacts on consumers over the lifecycle is Bill, is somewhere in the 1.5% higher prices. So it’s not materially higher. As I said, the bill has passed, the House Committee, it’s going to the House floor for vote. It can then move to the Senate, where we could see potential other amendments, and we’ll have to see how that plays out in the coming weeks. Paul Patterson It looks like it’s on schedule for the House passage next week – early next week? Jim Piro That’s correct. And then, it goes to the Senate, Senate Business and Transportation Committee. Paul Patterson Okay. And is energy efficiency part of the RPS standard or is that separate? In other words, I mean, does energy, because I did notice this regional for state thing that was big pushing energy efficiency, is that part of getting to be the standard? Jim Piro No, because that just reduces our load energy efficiency. It just measures that. We don’t want to continue our commitment to energy efficiency. We use the Energy Trust of Oregon to determine what is the least cost, lowest risk energy efficiency and how to acquire that. We do a very detailed study in our IRP to determine what that is. And so, I don’t think that changes dramatically in this legislation. It just continues to support the need for energy efficiency, but it does not count against the RPS standard in a sense that it’s part of the – how we meet retail load. It would reduce retail load, but it doesn’t necessarily count as – against the percentages. Paul Patterson Okay. Excellent. And then, just in terms of obviously this CapEx forecast, we should expect that once this – we get more information on H.B. 4036 and your IRP, that – those numbers will probably be considerably higher, I would expect, correct? James Lobdell Yeah. I think the question we have to ask and we’ll be looking at this in the IRP is, given the shutdown of Boardman in this high RPS standard, what’s the right timing and quantity of renewables we need to add to the grid, kind of to get us to the 50%. Because you wouldn’t want to necessarily agitate base load gas generation, and then, find out that you have too much generation as you go to a 50% RPS. So we’re going to have to think very, very smartly about the right mix of resources and the trajectory to get to that 50% RPS, and the bill does allow us to may be pre-build ahead of the need if we can demonstrate that’s the cost effective thing to do. So that’s really the magic here in trying to figure this all out is, what’s the right timing of doing this in a way that provides the least cost, lowest risk for our customers. Paul Patterson Okay. Great. The rest of my questions have been answered. Thanks so much. James Lobdell Thank you. Jim Piro Thank you. Operator Thank you. And our next question comes from Michael Weinstein of UBS. You line is now open. Michael Weinstein Hey guys. A quick follow-up question. On the legislation, as a co-owner of Colstrip 3 and Colstrip 4, just wondering what do you see, how do you anticipate the disposition of that plan once coal by wires eliminate 2035 for it, under the legislation, what do you see happening with it? Jim Piro So, we’ve thought a lot about that. Obviously, our plan under this would be to recover all the capital costs and decommissioning costs through 2030 or 2035 depending on – the legislation allows us to keep the plan in customer prices through 2035. So, beyond that, the question is, what would we do with the plant. There is options we would consider obviously, if the plant continues to operate, it has value, we could either sell it in an auction, we could sell the power in the market. Those are two considerations as we look forward. And those are the things we’ll have to evaluate as we get closer to that period. And so, we don’t have any answer yet, but we have options. Michael Weinstein On minority owner. Jim Piro Yeah. We’re a 20% owner in Colstrip 3 and Colstrip 4. So, it’s not like we can decide to shut the project down. And so, we will look at that as we get closer to that timeframe, but those are the two options we would consider. Michael Weinstein Okay. I’m just wondering if there’s been any moves to try to push to sell to [indiscernible] just like they’re doing with Colstrip 1 and Colstrip 2? Jim Piro Well, yeah, I understand that. And… James Lobdell Yeah. Jim Piro In Washington, they have a prohibition from utilities buying coal output also. So, I know they’re working on their own issues around units 1, 2, 3, and 4. And we’ll have a lot to see when we get there. I think the landscape can change. Montana is a potential market. Obviously, there are other places that power could be sourced to. Yeah. Michael Weinstein Right. Okay. Thank you. Operator Thank you. And our next question comes from [indiscernible]. Your line is now open. Unidentified Analyst Hi, good morning. Jim Piro Good morning. James Lobdell Good morning. Unidentified Analyst Just a question on slide 14 regarding the financing. You guys have year marked about a $160 million of additional bonds you may issue. Is that currently embedded in the future testier that you have this year, and then in guidance? What’s the situation with the interest related to that? And what was the site, if you issue it or not? Jim Piro Yeah. Now, it is included in the guidance already. Unidentified Analyst It’s included in the rate case too. Jim Piro Including the rate case too. Unidentified Analyst Because I think, do we update the numbers for those bonds or? Jim Piro Updated for the bonds of … James Lobdell January. Jim Piro January, yeah. Unidentified Analyst Okay. Jim Piro Great thing. If you aligned up with the guidance that we have. Unidentified Analyst Okay. And then, just one follow-up question. Now, this is kind of an asset, I just want to make sure I understand it correctly. On the surety bonds, by when do you need to have some kind of resolution on those before you decide to take action at the commission? I mean, you can have the plant in service by your required service date, but when do you need to know about the recovery of the surety bonds before you go to the commission? Jim Piro Well, right now, our prices are based about on the $540 million, and that’s kind of the agreement we have, the next time we would address this in a subsequent general rate case. And so, we would obviously need to have that resolved by then, but if we’re looking at a 2018 general rate case, we’ve got sufficient time to address that. Again, our hope is that we will get full compensation for the cost exceedance, but that’s obviously something we have to work through with the sureties. Unidentified Analyst Okay. I appreciate it. Thank you and congratulations. Jim Piro Okay. Operator Thank you. And our next question comes from Michael Lapides of Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open. Michael Lapides Hey guys. Just a quick question on rate case timing again, meaning going forward. It doesn’t sound like you are going to do a lot of construction on stuff related to the RFO or RFP until the 2019 timeframe. Do you anticipate filing again between now and then? James Lobdell Yeah. Right now, our thinking is, 2018 general rate case, but a lot of that will depend on load growth, inflation, cost controls, just a number of factors that we look at. We clearly have not filed for a 2017 rate case and don’t anticipate doing that, absence something going on with Carty. So, we would likely look at 2018. We will make that decision till probably November of this year, when we finish our budget to be filed in February of 2017 for a 2018 general rate case, if we decided to do that. A lot of it will also depend on interest rates, what return on equities are doing. So, there are a whole bunch of factors will go into that decision. But right now, that’s kind of what we’re pointing towards, but we haven’t made a final decision. Michael Lapides Got it. So, you would file in 2017 for 2018, but that really wouldn’t incorporate many of the stuff coming out of the RFP process? James Lobdell Not at this point now. And to the extent there are renewable resources, we do have the tracking mechanism under the current RPS standard, that those can get track in directly when they go into service. So, we’d only be either capacity resources or something other type of thermal resources that would have to get, whether we require a general rate case. So, we could actually track in the renewables with the current standards we have and the mechanism we have. Michael Lapides Got it, guys. Thank you. Much appreciate it. James Lobdell Thank you. Operator Thank you. Jim Piro Okay. I think that’s the end of the calls. 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