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Alliant Energy’s (LNT) CEO Pat Kampling on Q4 2015 Results – Earnings Call Transcript

Operator Thank you for holding, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Alliant Energy’s Yearend and Fourth Quarter 2015 Earnings Conference Call. AT this time, all lines are in a listen-only mode and today’s conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to your host, Susan Gille, Manager of Investor Relations at Alliant Energy. Susan Gille Good morning. I would like to thank all of you on the call and on the webcast for joining us today. We appreciate your participation. With me here today are Pat Kampling, Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer; Tom Hanson, Senior Vice President and CFO; and Robert Durian, Vice President, Chief Accounting Officer and Controller; as well as other members of the Senior Management Team. Following prepared remarks by Pat and Tom, we will have time to take questions from the investment community. We issued a news release last night announcing Alliant Energy’s yearend and fourth quarter 2015 earnings, affirmed 2015 earnings guidance and provided updated 2016 through 2019 capital expenditure guidance. This release, as well as supplemental slides that will be referenced during today’s call, are available on the investor page of our website at alliantenergy.com. Before we begin, I need to remind you the remarks we make on this call and our answers to your questions include forward-looking statements. These forward-looking statements are subject to risks that could cause actual results to be materially different. Those risks include, among others, matters discussed in Alliant Energy’s press release issued last night and in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. We disclaim any obligation to update these forward-looking statements. In addition, this presentation contains non-GAAP financial measures. The reconciliation between non-GAAP and GAAP measures are provided in the earnings release, which are available on our website at alliantenergy.com. At this point I’ll turn the call over to Pat. Pat Kampling Thank you, Sue. Good morning and thank you for joining us for our yearend earnings call. I’ll begin with an overview of 2015 performance and then provide an update on our forecasted capital expenditures and rate base. I’ll also share the progress made in transforming our generation fleet, modernizing our electric system and expanding our natural gas system. I’ll then turn the call over to Tom to provide details on our 2015 results and 2016 guidance as well as review our regulatory calendar. I am pleased to report we’ve had another solid year achieving a $3.57 midpoint of our November 2015 guidance range when adding back to negative temperature impact of $0.08 per share to the non-GAAP earnings of $3.49 per share. Our 2015 non-GAAP temperature normalized earnings reflect an increase of over 5% from comparable 2014 earnings as shown on Slide 2. The temperatures of late 2015 did impact our actual yearend results. For the first 10 months of 2015, our financial results were basically temperature neutral, but the one winter we experienced, especially in December resulted in a negative $0.08 per share variance in 2015 earnings. This was quite the opposite for 2014 where we experienced a $0.09 per share positive variance to earnings. Therefore, temperature swings did lead to a significant year-over-year variance of $0.17 per share. We also issued an updated capital expenditure plan for 2016 through 2019, totaling $5 billion as shown on Slide 3. In addition, we have provided a walk from the previous 2016 to 2019 capital expenditure plan to our current plan on Slide 4. As you can see, the $260 million increase in our forecasted 2016 through 2019 capital expenditure plan is driven primarily from accelerated investments from our electric and gas distribution systems. The December 2015 extension of bonus depreciation for certain investments through 2019 has given us the opportunity to bring forward some infrastructure projects that will benefit our customers for years to come. I do want to point out that with this revised capital plan, we expect no material change to the rate base forecast that we provided last November for IPL and WPL through 2018. We anticipate the increase in forecasted capital expenditures will offset the impact resulting from the extension of bonus depreciation. During the past few years, we’ve been executing on a plan for the orderly transition of our generation fleet in an economical manner to serve our customers. We made significant progress in building a generation portfolio that have lower emissions, greater fuel diversity and is more cost efficient. The transition included installing emission controls and performance upgrades at our largest coal-fired facilities retiring all the less efficient coal units and increasing levels of natural gas fired and renewable energy generation. Since 2010, Alliant Energy has retired or repowered over 1,150 megawatts of coal-fired generation for about one third of our 2009 coal linked plate capacity. These retirements have been replaced with highly efficient gas-fired generation, which produces approximately half of the carbon emissions when compared to coal-fired generation. Though natural gas prices in 2015 resulted in significant changes to the capacity factors of our gas units. Riverside had an approximately 50% capacity factor last year, more than doubled its prior five-year average. Our Emery combined cycle facility also experienced significant increase in operating hours during 2015. With lower gas prices, the additional gas generation in our portfolio resulted in savings for our customers in 2015. Now let me brief you on our construction activities. 2015 was again a very active construction year with over $1 billion deployed. Our investments included approximately $360 million for electric and gas distribution systems. This was one of the largest annual investments in those systems and will be an area of growing investment. These projects are driven by customer expectations to make our electric system more reliable and resilient and to expand natural gas services, especially to communities that did not have access before. In Iowa, the Marshalltown natural gas-fired generating facility is progressing well and is now approximately 75% complete. Forecasted capital expenditure for this project is approximately $700 million excluding AFUDC and transmission. Marshalltown is on time and on budget and is expected to go in service in the spring of 2017. In Wisconsin, progress continues on the installation of a scrubber and baghouse at Edgewater Unified. This project is approximately 90% complete and is on time and below budget. Capital expenditure forecast for this project are approximately $270 million and it is expected to be in service later this year. Driven upgrades and pulverizing replacement work continues at Columbia and these performance improvements projects are expected to be complete next year. This spring construction of a Columbia unit to SCR will begin. WPLs capital expenditure for this project is approximately $50 million and it is expected to go in service in 2018. In 2013, WPL announced that it will retire several older coal facilities and natural gas peaking units and therefore more than 50 years of dependable operation Nelson Dewey and Edgewater Unit 3 were retied in December. The retirement of these units puts several other retirements through 2019 but will result in a reduction of WPL capacities for approximately 700 megawatts. As a result, WPL proposed to construct the 700 megawatt highly efficient natural gas generating facility referred to as a Riverside Energy Center expansion. We anticipate the Public Service Commission will issue its decision on the Riverside expansion in the second quarter. Earlier this month, we announced that we have negotiated options with neighboring utilities and electric cooperatives for partial Riverside ownership of up to 55 megawatts during the construction facility and up to an additional 250 megawatts during the first five years of the facility is operating. With this agreement, the cooperatives have extended their wholesale electric contracts at WP&L by four years through 2026. We’re pleased that our neighbor utilities realize the benefits of our proposed facility and want to be involved in this exciting and innovative project. While we now expect the other from the Riverside units to be close to 700 megawatts, the capital expenditure for Riverside remains at approximately $700 million excluding AFUDC and transmission. The targeted and service days has changed from early 2019 to early 2020. Therefore the timing of the capital expenditure have been updated and are reflected on Slide 3 based on input from the EPC bidders. The expenditures presented for Riverside do not reflect the possible capital reduction if the cooperatives exercise their 55 megawatt purchase option during construction. In addition to the Riverside joint ownership option, hub service and MG&E will have the option to limit their capital expenditures at Columbia to paying for only the SCR during the time that Riverside is being constructed. Our capital expenditure plan does not reflect this option being executed. However, we expect that any increase in our capital expenditures at Columbia would be largely offset if the electric co-ops exercise their purchase option 55 megawatts of Riverside. Earlier this month the United States Supreme Court effectively delayed implementation of the clean power plant until legal challenges to the EPAs rules are resolved. This stay will not change our current resource or capital expenditure plan as they were not based on compliance with the clean power plant. As we planned for our future generation needs, we aim to minimize emissions while providing safe, reliable and affordable energy to our customers. We believe that with the transition of our generation fleet and the availability of lower natural gas prices, our carbon emissions will continue to decrease. We’re very fortunate to operating states that have a long history of support for renewable energy and a strong commitment to environmental storage ship. We have and will continue to invest in purchase renewable energy. The currently owned 568 megawatts of wind generation and our 10-year capital plan includes additional wind investments to the customer energy needs. In addition, we currently purchase approximately 470 megawatts of energy from renewable sources. Wind energy provided approximately 8% of our customer’s energy needs in 2015. Also your several solar projects under development from which we anticipate gathering valuable experience on how best to integrate solar in a cost effective manner into our electric system. At our Madison headquarters with 1300 solar panels have been installed and they’re now generating power for the building. Construction has also started on Wisconsin’s largest solar farm on our Rock River landfill, which is adjacent to Riverside. In an Iowa we’ll be owning and operating the solar panels at the Indian Creek Nature Center in Cedar Rapids and are reviewing responses to the RFP we issued for additional solar in our portfolio. There is a sense of excitement as you work to transform the company to meet our customer’s evolving expectations. A major improvement to our customer experience just happened as we went live with our new customer care and billing system. The $110 million investment we placed the interim systems from the 1980s. Our new billing system will make communication with our customers more convenient and timely and will allow for us provide innovative service options. This project was another well executed major initiative. I do want to thank everyone that worked so hard for years to transform our customer experience. At Alliant Energy we’ve already made great progress transitioning our utilities to a cleaner more modern energy system. This would not have been possible without the hard work and commitment of our employees who keep the customer at the center of everything we do. Let me summarize the key messages for today. We had a solid 2015 and we work hard to also deliver 2016’s financial and operating objectives. We anticipate no material change for the rate base growth through 2018 as the updated capital expenditure plan while offset any impact from the extension of bonus depreciation. Our plan continues to provide for 5% to 7% earnings growth and a 60% to 70% common dividend payout target. Our targeted 2016 dividend increased by 7% over the 2015 dividend target. The central execution on our major construction projects include completing projects on time and at or below budget in a very safe manner. Working with our regulators, consumer advocates; environmental groups, neighboring utilities and customers in a collaborative manner. Reshaping our organization to be leaner and faster while keeping the focus on serving our customers and being good partners in our communities and we will continue to manage the company to strike a balance between capital investment, operational and financial discipline and cost effective customers. Thank you for your interest in Alliant Energy and I will now turn the call over to Tom. Tom Hanson Good morning, everyone. We released 2015 earnings last evening with our non-GAAP earnings from continuing operations of $3.49 per share and our GAAP earnings from continuing operations of $3.38 per share. The non-GAAP to GAAP differences are due to a $0.07 per share charge resulting from the sale of IPOs Minnesota electric and gas distribution assets and a $0.04 per share charge resulting from the approximately 2% of employees accepting voluntary separation packages as we continue focusing on managing cost for our customers. Comparisons between 2015 and 2014 earnings per share are detailed on Slide 5, 6 and 7. Retail, electric, temperature normalized sales increased approximately 1% or $0.04 per share at IPO and WP&L between 2015 and 2014. This excludes the impacts of the Minnesota sale. The industrial segment continues to be the largest sales growth driver year-over-year. The 2015 results include an adjustment to our ATC earnings to reflect an anticipated decision from FERC expected to lower ATCs current authorized ROE of 12.2%. We reserve $0.06 per share for 2015 reflecting an anticipated all in ROE of 10.82%. This is a result of the FERC Administrative Law Judge’s initial decision issued in December 2015. Now let’s review our 2016 guidance. In November, we issued our consolidated 2016 earnings guidance range of $3.60 to $3.90. The key drivers for the 5% growth in earnings relate to infrastructure investment such as the Edgewater 5 and Lansing emission control equipment and higher AFUDC related to the construction of the Marshalltown generating station. The 2016 guidance range assumes normal weather and modest retail electric sales increases of approximately 1% for IPO and WP&L excluding the impacts of the Minnesota sale. Also the earnings guidance is based upon the impacts of IPOs and WP&Ls previously announced retail electric base rate settlements. The IPO settlement reflected rate-based growth primarily from placing the Lansing scrubber in service in 2015. In 2016, IPO expects to credit customer builds by approximately $10 million. By comparison the billing credits in 2015 were $24 million. During 2016 IPO also expects to provide tax benefit rider billing credits to electric and gas customers of approximately $62 million compared to $72 million in 2015. As in prior years the tax benefit riders may have a quarterly timing impact but are not anticipated to impact full year results. The WPL settlement reflected electric rate base growth for the Edgewater 5 scrubber in baghouse projected to be placed in service in 2016. The increase in revenue requirements in 2016 for this and other rate base additions was completely offset by lower energy efficiency, cost recovery amortizations. Also included in WP&Ls rate settlement was an increase in transmission cost, primarily related to the anticipated allocation of SSR cost. As a result of a third quarter issued after the settlement, the amount of the transmission cost build to WP&L in 2016 will be lower than what was reflected in the settlement. Since the PSCW approved escrow accounting treatment for transmission costs, the difference between the actual transmission costs billed to WP&L and those reflected in the settlement has been accumulated in a regulatory liability. We estimate that this regulatory liability will have a balance of approximately $35 million by the end of 2016. This regulatory liability is another mechanism we can use to minimize future rate increases for our Wisconsin retail electric customers. Slide 8 has been provided to assist you in modeling the effective tax rates for IPO, WP&L and AEC for 2016 and provides you the actual effective tax rates for 2015. Turning to our financing plans, our current financing forecast incorporates the extension bonus depreciation deductions for certain capital expenditures for property through 2019. As a result of the five year extension to bonus depreciation, Alliant Energy currently does not expect to make any significant federal income tax payments through 2021. This forecast is based upon the current federal net operating losses and the credit carry-forward positions as well as future amounts of bonus depreciation expected to be taken under federal income tax returns over the next five years. Cash flows from operations are expected to be strong given the earnings generated by the business. We believe that with our strong cash flows and financing plan, we will maintain our targeted liquidity and capitalization ratios as well as high quality credit ratings. Our 2016 financing plan assumes we’ll be issuing approximately $25 million of new common equity through our share owner direct plan. The 2016 financing plan also anticipates issuing long-term debt up to $300 million at IPO and approximately $400 million at the parent and Alliant Energy resources. $310 million of the proceeds at apparent and Alliant Energy resources are expected to be used to refinance maturity of term loans. We may adjust our financing plans as deemed prudent if market conditions warrant and as our debt and equity needs continue to reassessed. As we look beyond 2016, our equity needs will be driven by the proposed riverside expansion project. Our forecast assumes that capital expenditures for 2017 and 2018 would be financed primarily by a combination of debt and new common equity. Before the five-year extension bonus depreciation, we were not expected to make any material federal income tax payments through 2017. Thus, the extension of bonus depreciation is not expected to change our financing needs for the next two years. We have several current and planned regulatory dockets of note for 2016 and 2017, which we have summarized on Slide 9 during the second quarter of 2016 we anticipate a decision from the PSCW on the riverside expansion proposal and we anticipate filing a WP&L retail electric and gas rate case for 2017 and 2018 rates. For IPL, we’ll be filing our five-year emission plan and budget in the first quarter and expect a decision regarding the permanent application for the approximately $60 million Clinton Natural Gas pipeline in the second quarter. The next Iowa retail electric and gas based rate cases are expected to be filed in the first quarter of 2017. We very much appreciate your continued support of our company and look forward to meeting with you throughout the coming year. At this time I’ll turn the call back over the operator to facilitate the question-and-answer session. Question-and-Answer Session Operator Thank you, sir. [Operator Instructions] Alliant Energy’s Management will take as many questions as they can within the one hour timeframe for this morning’s call. [Operator Instructions] We will take our first question from Brian Russo with Ladenburg Thalmann. Brian Russo Hi. Good morning. Pat Kampling Good morning, Brian. Brian Russo Would you be able to possibly quantify the amount of equity you might need to help finance the riverside expansion? Tom Hanson Brian, as we said, our objective is to continue to maintain the targeted equity levels at both IPL and WP&L. So you can assume that with largest project here at WP&L that we will have incremental equity needs. We’ll be sharing specifics as we issue guidance in later years, but what’s important are targeted incremental equity is included in our forward-looking guidance. So the delusion is reflected in our 5% to7% targeted growth rate. Brian Russo Okay. Great and it looks like ’15 over ’14 and ’16 over ’15 you got to kind of gravitating towards the lower end of the 5% to 7% EPS CAGR. Is there something structural there that as rate base grows its harder to get in the middle or the higher end or is it just a function of lumpiness of the CapEx? Pat Kampling Yes, what really is Brian is that our sales forecast has come down a little bit. Originally we were about 2% at Wisconsin 1% in Iowa. Now we see it as overall 1% and that’s what’s really brought us down to more to the midpoint of the range, not to the higher end of the range. Brian Russo Okay. And just to clarify, fourth quarter weather versus normal is negative $0.08? Pat Kampling That’s correct. Brian Russo Okay. And what quarters did those two charges occur? Were they in the fourth quarter or earlier? Tom Hanson The third quarter we recorded the Minnesota charge and I believe second quarter was Minnesota’s charge and then the third quarter was the charge associated with voluntary separation package. So second third quarter. Sorry Brian. Brian Russo Okay. Great. Thank you. Operator We’ll take our next question from Andrew Weisel with Macquarie Capital. Andrew Weisel Thanks. Good morning, everyone. Pat Kampling Good morning, Andrew. Andrew Weisel First question on the CapEx update. Help me understand is the $260 million net increase over the years, is that pulling forward from the existing 10-year CapEx plan or would that be incremental to the $10.6 billion that you’ve forecast through 2020 for? Pat Kampling Yes so this is — it’s incremental to what we had shown you in the 10-year plan. Andrew Weisel Okay great. Next question I have is on a lot of the announcements you made on Riverside, I believe if I heard you correct, you said that the cash associated with incremental Columbia CapEx would be roughly offset by Muniz exercising the option for 55 megawatts, is that right and is there a scenario where you have one but not the other? Pat Kampling Andrew that is correct that they should offset each other as they both have been. We’re not revising the CapEx until we know exactly what’s going to happen with the gracious options at this point, but the additional capital for Columbia would be offset by the co-ops purchasing Riverside. But it is possible that one of the options could occur without the other. They’re very independent of each other. Andrew Weisel Okay. Could that be big enough to move the needle on equity needs? Pat Kampling I don’t think so. We’re talking capital of under $100 million here. Andrew Weisel Okay. Great. Then lastly I might be reading the subtleties of the wording a little too closely, but in the press release, you added — you have the expression striving to achieve the projected earnings growth rate. And the last question you just talked about the lower sales growth. Any reason to think that the next years might be toward the low end of that range or do you still feel comfortable with the midpoint through the construction and maybe just commentary on how that — how the outlook looks over the next several years. Pat Kampling Yeah, no, we’re very confident and in keep in mind the reason we’re gravitating towards the lower end right now is that when rate freezes and the sales forecast change from the timing you agree to rate freezes, but we’re still very confident with our plan going forward especially as we enter rate cases about jurisdictions. Andrew Weisel Great, thank you very much. I appreciate the detail. Pat Kampling Sure. Operator We’ll take our next question from Steve Fleishman with Wolfe Research. Steve Fleishman Hi, good morning. Pat Kampling Good morning. Steve Fleishman Couple questions just to follow up on the one with you mentioned on Riverside and Columbia and the co-ops how about also with Wisconsin energy and MGE just how do we think about both the impact of what they decide and when they likely decide on whether they’re going to take more Riverside and share some of Colombia. Pat Kampling Yeah. So the Colombia is — that change is happening during the Riverside construction that’s between now and 2019. The purchase option is 2020 and beyond and that’s really not in our CapEx plans. That’s something we’re going to need to monitor. We’ll be working with the other utilities as they develop their resource plans as well. But that’s not something that we can actually estimate the probability of right now. Steve Fleishman So that would be after the plant fully done and operating basically. Pat Kampling Except for the 55 megawatts for co-ops, that’s during construction. Steve Fleishman Okay. And just the growth rate the 5 to 7 is that through 2018 or 2019 to follow the CapEx period? Pat Kampling Yes, it does. Yes, the CapEx period Steve, that’s right. Steve Fleishman So it’s 2019? Pat Kampling Yes. Steve Fleishman Okay. And then a question on the — as I’m sure you’re aware, we had a recent acquisition announcement of ITC and you have the transmission involvement there I’m just curious if you’re likely to get involved and have any issues with that transaction or any intervention? Pat Kampling Steve, we wish we’re analyzing the transaction as you can imagine. We’re very large customer of ITC. So this is of quite interest to us as you can imagine. So we’ve had open dialogue with the folks at ITC and we just plan on having the open dialogue and we’ll figure out exactly what our position is in their dockets, they have several dockets over the next several months. Steve Fleishman Is you intention just to file at FERC or do you think Iowa has a role at all? Pat Kampling We’re still looking at what the different options are at this point Steve. Steve Fleishman Okay. Thank you. Operator Our next question comes from [Raza with L&T Capital]. Unidentified Analyst Thank you. Just a quick question, on the rate base that you commented on earlier, is the deferred tax portion of rate base going up while the entire rate base total phase constant versus your prior guidance. Is that the best way to think about it? Tom Hanson I would characterize it that the NOLs along with the additional CapEx are offsetting the effect of the bonus depreciation. Unidentified Analyst The earnings base stays constant? Tom Hanson Yes. Pat Kampling Yeah, I would say the net rate base remains constant. Unidentified Analyst Net rate base, okay and then I think you commented on it a little bit earlier, but this incremental CapEx that you added, how does that affect financing plans over this period? Does it potentially lead to little more equity or not or how should we think about that? Tom Hanson The modest amounts that we’re adding will not significantly change our equity needs. As Pat made reference, some of this is due to the timing of Riverside. Some of that cost is being pushed out and then we do have the opportunity to backfill as Pat mentioned with some of the electric gas distribution. So it’s not going to be materially changing any of our financing needs. Unidentified Analyst And then the load growth you talked about, I’m sorry if I missed this earlier, but what is the forecasted load growth for your planning period? Pat Kampling Sure. We’re using 1% now to book utilities. But I would say the growth is out of the 1%. It’s higher in the industrial sector and lower in the residential sector. Unidentified Analyst Okay. Thank you very much. Pat Kampling Sure. You’re welcome. Operator We’ll take our next question from Jay Dobson with Wunderlich Jay Dobson Hey good morning, Pat and good morning, Tom. Question just to follow-up on Raza’s question. So the rate base with the change in bonus depreciation and CapEx is the expectation are flat. So the earnings growth will be flat. But it doesn’t really change your tax position. So cash flow we would anticipate would in fact be negatively impacted by the rise in CapEx, which facilitates the increase modest as you just said Tom, increase in financing needs. Do I have it right? Tom Hanson In the near term, yeah because when we had our previous forecast assuming no depreciation or potential bonus depreciation we were looking at making modest tax payments beginning in ’17 and ’18 and now with the extension, we won’t have that, but that delta in terms of cash is not that significant certainly in the ’17 and ’18 timeframe. Jay Dobson Right. Okay, great. And then earned ROEs at the utilities subs what were those in ’15 on sort of a non-weather adjusted basis understanding that weather is going to. Pat Kampling Yes we definitely earned our authorized return with [them] which was about 10.4 and then in Iowa is around the around 10% again excluding the Minnesota sale though. Jay Dobson Got it. And those are weather adjusted or — so that would reflect that $0.08 adjustment or maybe more like a $3.57 number. I know it’s not fair to say that on a jurisdictional basis but… Pat Kampling Right I would say it’s all in including the weather. Jay Dobson Got you. Okay fine. And then last one on trended, the transportation segment just what you see going forward there obviously a tough year in 2015 for that segment though it developed throughout the year. So not a great surprise but you look forward through ’16 and beyond just volume trends you’re seeing. Pat Kampling Trend it’s actually going through our strategic planning process. Right now looking at other opportunities and where they can expand their current footprint. So I’m very optimistic about some possibilities that they’re looking at right now, but they’ve been very proactive knowing the reduction in their business these are really basically cold transportation. They’re looking forward at some other opportunities for them right now, some more to come on that. Jay Dobson Got it. But if we’re thinking about ’16 and it’s probably within a broad range of guidance would you — we certainly couldn’t get back to the 2014 level of earnings from [Krandex but] probably do see some improvement with some of the strategic initiatives there we’re reviewing currently, is that fair. Pat Kampling I would say it might be beyond ’16. It would be hard to execute on projects for ’16, but definitely going into ’17. Jay Dobson Got it, no that’s fair. Thanks so much Tom thank you. Pat Kampling Sure. Operator We’ll take our next question from Paul Patterson with Glenrock Associates. Paul Patterson Good morning, guys. Pat Kampling Good morning, Paul. Paul Patterson Just what was the 2015 weather adjusted sales year-over-year? What was the growth rate? Tom Hanson It was 1% in both of our two utilities. Again that’s adjusting for the Minnesota sale. Paul Patterson Okay. And then the sales forecast is now 1% what was it previously I apologize. Pat Kampling Sure previously and this goes back to year ago, it was 2% Wisconsin and 1% in Iowa and now it’s 1% in both jurisdictions. Paul Patterson Okay. And then the incremental CapEx, I’m not exactly — this is incremental above, this isn’t bringing it forward from what I understand. This is new stuff. What is that and what’s driving that? Tom Hanson We have provided a slide in our supplemental slides that kind of highlight that but I would put it basically in two big buckets. The first is dealing with our electric area in terms of certainly continuing to replace existing distribution lines. So it’s really trying to upgrade the distribution system and we also have then some modest gas expansion as well. Paul Patterson Okay. And I guess so I’m wondering though is that if this is incremental over a 10-year forecast that would indicate that something is driving those. I saw the slide, I guess what I’m wondering is what’s kind of driving this. Is it something forward that would indicate that you guys see some new need and I am just wondering what that is or if there is one, what I am missing? Pat Kampling Yeah, I would just say that we’re actually just taking the opportunity to expand some of these projects. We’ve had a replacement program for our overhead and underground system for years and we’re just really increasing that taking the opportunity now to increase that and where we evaluate after this five-year program because actually for the next five years and if we want to accelerate even more in the second five-year time frame and again our customer’s expectations are in liability and resilience you just keep increasing. Paul Patterson Okay. Pat Kampling This is our first stage of looking at that and putting good dollars to work for our customers. Paul Patterson And then just the Kewaunee power plant, I believe that the Wisconsin has halted implementation of that. Is there any impact that you guys see of that or how are you guys dealing with that served just on a high level. Any thoughts we should have on that? Pat Kampling Yes, at a high level, yes the safest [comment] is that they’re not going to put any resources to work on any clean power plant implementation. However, the utilities are still working together to try to understand their own circumstances into the plan. So we’re working very proactively with the other utilities and we’ll just have to see how this plays out in the State. Paul Patterson Okay. My other questions have been answered. Thanks so much. Pat Kampling Sure. You’re welcome. Operator And there are no further questions. I would like to turn the call — we actually have a follow-up question from Brian Russo with Ladenburg Thalmann. Brian Russo Yes, hi. Thanks for the follow-up. Just can you remind us what the base year and adjusted EPS is to formulate the 5% to 7% CAGR? Tom Hanson Brian, we update that every single year. You would want it, our non-GAAP temperature adjusted so similar to what we did in ’14. So you would want to rebase that now that we reported our actuals for 2015. So the base for purposes that calculation would be $3.57. Brian Russo Okay. Thanks a lot. Operator And there are no further questions at this time. I would like to turn the conference back over presenters for any additional or closing remarks. Susan Gille With no more questions, this concludes our call. A replay will be available through March 01, 2016, at 888-203-1112 for U.S. and Canada, or 719-457-0820 for international. Callers should reference conference ID 8244179. In addition, an archive of the conference call and a script of the prepared remarks we made on the call will be available on the Investor section of the company’s website later today. We thank you for your continued support of Alliant Energy and feel free to contact me with any follow up questions. Operator And that concludes today’s presentation. 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Capital Power’s (CPXWF) CEO Brian Vaasjo on Q4 2015 Results – Earnings Call Transcript

Capital Power Corporation ( OTC:CPXWF ) Q4 2015 Earnings Conference Call February 19, 2016 12:00 PM ET Operator Welcome to Capital Power’s Fourth Quarter 2015 Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. Following the presentation, the conference call will be opened for questions. This conference call is being recorded today February 19, 2016. I will now turn the call over to Randy Mah, Senior Manager, Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Randy Mah Good morning and thank you for joining us today to review Capital Power’s fourth quarter and year end 2015 results, which were released yesterday. The financial results and the presentation slides for this conference call are posted on our Web site at capitalpower.com. We will start the call with opening comments from Brian Vaasjo, President and CEO; and Bryan DeNeve, Senior Vice President and CFO. After our opening remarks, we will open up the lines to take your questions. Before we start, I would like to remind listeners that certain statements about future events made on this conference call are forward-looking in nature and are based on certain assumptions and analysis made by the company. Actual results may differ materially from the company’s expectations due to various material risks and uncertainties associated with our business. Please refer to the cautionary statement on forward-looking information on Slide number 2. In today’s presentation, we will be referring to various non-GAAP financial measures as noted on Slide number 3. These measures are not defined financial measures according to GAAP and do not have standardized meanings described by GAAP, and therefore are unlikely to be comparable to similar measures used by other enterprises. Reconciliations of these non-GAAP financial measures can be found in the Management’s Discussion and Analysis for 2015. I’ll now turn the call over to Brian Vaasjo for his remarks starting on Slide number 4. Brian Vaasjo Thanks Randy. I will start off by reviewing our highlights for 2015. Capital Power delivered solid performance in 2015 with the company meeting or exceeding its annual operating and financial targets. This included achieving average plant availability of 95% compared to the 94% target. We also generated $400 million in funds from operations, which was at the upper end of the $365 million to $415 million target range. We also continued to strengthen our contracted cash flow with the addition of three new facilities in 2015 with 305 megawatts under long-term PPAs. The Shepard Energy Center, K2 wind and Beaufort Solar were all added to the fleet during the year on time, neither on or below budget. We increased the annual dividend by 7.4% and provided annual dividend growth guidance of 7% per year for the next three years out to 2018. Finally, through our share buyback program, we repurchased approximately 6 million common shares that represented approximately 7% of the outstanding shares at the beginning of 2015. Turning to Slide 5, I want to provide an update on the impact of the Alberta Climate Leadership Plan. We continue to wait for further details on the plan that was announced by the Alberta Government last November. One component of the Climate Leadership Plan is the accelerated phase of the coal facilities with replacement generation coming mostly from renewables. We are well-positioned to participate in this opportunity as you can see in the chart; Capital Power is a leading IPP developer in the Alberta market. With our construction expertise, we are well-positioned to develop and build renewables in natural gas fired facilities. Moving to Slide 6, the other aspect of the accelerated phase out of coal facility is how the government of Alberta will compensate companies that are impacted. The government has stated that they are committed to avoid unnecessary stranding capital into three companies fairly. Our continued understanding is that we will be fairly compensated for the yearly shutdowns of Genesee 1 and 2 and our 50% interest in Genesee 3 and Keephills 3. This belief is based on the government’s statement and their planned introduction of the carbon competitive regulation or carbon tax starting in 2018, which is expected to generate several billions in new government revenues. At this time, we are still awaiting the appointment of a facilitator, our understanding is that the Alberta Government is aiming to announce the facilitators name and mandate in the near future and will commence discussions with the affected coal companies at that time. We expect details regarding the timeline in terms of reference will be published once the facilitator is announced. For Capital Power, ensuring we receive fair compensation remains a top priority. Turning to Slide 7, I would like to provide an update on our Genesee 4 and 5 project. In 2015, limited construction activities took place due to the uncertainties stemming from the Climate Leadership Plan. We worked with the turbine manufacture and have deferred the original March 1, 2016, full notice to proceed deadline; this deadline has been deferred by up to 90 days from March 1. Further investments in the Alberta market including continuation of construction of Genesee 4 and 5 project will be considered one sufficient detail around the CLP is released and the company has assessed the impact on its existing Alberta assets. If Capital Power were to proceed with the Genesee 4 and 5 project with targeted completion as early as 2020, we need to have certainty with respect to the three critical issues. First, fair compensation from the Alberta Government for the projected accelerated closure of coal fired facilities. Second, clarity that implementation of the CLP will have no adverse impact on the Alberta electricity market design. And last, appropriate price signals from the energy-only market. On Slide 8 is a summary of our plant availability operating performance our plants for the fourth quarter of 2015 compared to the same period a year ago. We had outstanding operational performance in the fourth quarter with average plant availability of 99% compared to 94% in the fourth quarter of 2014. As you can see plant availability across the entire fleet was in the high 90s with the exception of our Southport facility, which is was at 93%. Turning to Slide 9, as you see in the chart, 2015 was consistent with past performance. Capital Power has a proven track record of high fleet availability, in the last five years we have achieved 93% average annual plan availability and we expect to continue the strong operational performance in 2016 where we are targeting plant availability of 94% or higher. I will now turn the call over to Bryan DeNeve. Bryan DeNeve Thanks Brian. Starting on Slide 10, I would like to review our fourth quarter financial performance. As Brian mentioned we had a strong quarter with 99% average plant availability and 23% increase in electricity generation compared to the fourth quarter of 2014. We generated $125 million in funds from operations representing the highest FFO in a quarter in three years. Normalized earnings per share was $0.42 compared to $0.20 a year ago. The average Alberta power price was $21 a megawatt hour in the fourth quarter compared to $30 a megawatt hour in the fourth quarter of 2014. Despite the 30% year-over-year decline, our trading desk captured a 162% higher realized average price of $55 a megawatt hour versus a spot price of $21 a megawatt hour. Moving to Slide 11, the strong performance from our trading desk has been evident over a longer period of time. The orange line in the chart represents Capital Power’s realized price for managing our exposure to commodity risk in reducing volatility. As you can see not only is there less volatility compared to the average spot price shown by the green line Capital Power’s average realized power price has exceeded the spot price by 25% on average in the past six years. So we continued to see consistent material value creation from our portfolio optimization activity. Turning to Slide 12, I will review our fourth quarter financial results compared to the fourth quarter of 2014. Revenues were $341 million down 21% from Q4 2014 primarily due to the unrealized changes in fair value of commodity derivatives and emission credits. Excluding mark-to-market changes plant revenues were up 11%. Adjusted EBITDA before unrealized changes in fair values was $133 million up 28% from the fourth quarter of 2014 result of higher generation across the fleet, the addition of Shepard in a full quarter from Macho Springs. Normalized earnings per share of $0.42 increased to 110% compared to $0.20 a year ago. As mentioned, we generated strong funds from operations of $125 million in the fourth quarter, which were up 23% year-over-year. Turning to Slide 13, I will cover our 2015 annual results compared to 2014. Overall, 2015 results showed year-over-year improvement across all financial measures. Revenues were $1.25 billion up 2% year-over-year primarily due to strong portfolio optimization results. Adjusted EBITDA before unrealized changes in fair values was $462 million up 19% from a year ago primarily due to higher contributions from the Alberta commercial plants and from Alberta contracted plants. Normalized earnings per share were $1.15 in 2015 up 60% compared to $0.72 in 2014. We generated $400 million in funds from operations in 2015, which is 10% improvement from 2014. I will conclude my comments with our financial outlook on Slide 14. For 2016, our FFO guidance of $380 million to $430 million is based on the Alberta baseload plants being 100% hedged at the start of the year at an average hedge prices in high $40 a megawatt hour range. This compares favorably to the average 2016 forward price of $35 a megawatt hour as at the end of 2015. Although our baseload position in 2016 is fully hedged, we have the ability to capture additional upside in power prices with our peaking in wind facilities. We will also see a full year of operations from Shepard, K2 wind and Beaufort Solar in 2016. For 2017, we are 38% hedged at an average hedge price in the low $50 a megawatt hour range. And for 2018, we are 9% hedged in the mid $60 a megawatt hour range. The forward prices for 2017 and 2018 at the end of 2015 were $40 and $51 a megawatt hour respectively. Overall, we are managing current lull of Alberta power prices with continued cash flow per share growth in 2016. I will now turn the call back to Brian Vaasjo. Brian Vaasjo Thanks Bryan. Starting on Slide 15, I will conclude my comments by reviewing our 2015 operational and financial performance versus targets and recap our 2016 targets. As mentioned our 95% plant availability performance in 2015 exceeded the 94% target. For 2016, our average plant availability target is 94%, which includes major plant outages at Genesee 2 and 3, Clover Bar Energy Center, Joffre and Shepard. Our sustaining CapEx was $62 million in 2015, which was slightly below the $65 million target. We are targeting $65 million for 2016. Our plant operating and maintenance expense for 2015 came in at $192 million, which was in line with our target range of $192 million to $200 million. For 2016, we are targeting $200 million to $220 million for plant operating and maintenance expenses. And as previously mentioned, we achieved the upper end of our 2015 financial guidance by generating $400 million in funds from operations. For 2016, we are targeting FFO in the range of $380 million to $430 million. Turning to Slide 16, we have two development and construction growth targets in 2016, as mentioned the timing for full notice to proceed for Genesee 4 and 5 is contingent on clarity with respect to the impact of decisions from the Alberta Government’s Climate Leadership Plan and the appropriate price signals from the Alberta energy-only market. The second growth target is executing a PPA for a new development. The progress on our Bloom wind project is at the most advanced stage at this time. Bloom wind is 180 megawatt wind project in Kansas and construction is ready to go once an agreement can be executed. I will now turn the call back over to Randy. Randy Mah Thanks Brian. Mike, we are ready for the question-and-answer session. Question-and-Answer Session Operator All right. [Operator Instructions] All right. We do have a few questions. First one comes from Andrew Kuske from Credit Suisse. Please go ahead. Andrew Kuske Thank you. Good morning. I guess when you look in the quarter; you guys once again had a really good realization versus weak power markets in Alberta. So when you think ahead into 2016, and then beyond, do your strategies change just given the weakness in the power market. How do you maintain that kind of spread or at least really positive spread over the existing prices versus what you’ve realized historically? Brian Vaasjo So, when we look at 2017, as I mentioned, we are 30% — 38% hedged for that year. We have locked that in at prices that are higher than current forwards. Certainly as we move forward, we will continue to evaluate how forwards look relative to our own internal fundamental view of prices and make decisions on that basis. Certainly as we approach closer to 2017, we will be looking to increase that percentage hedged amount and work our way towards a higher hedge percentage. Andrew Kuske And then, maybe just an extension on that, what’s motivating customers, or your customer conversations to actually engage in power contracts right now at what we see in the forward curve levels versus just say staying open on spot? Brian Vaasjo I think that’s definitely one of the factors in the market right now. So the lull power prices and low volatility does provide a comfortable environment for customers. But as the market tightens and we see events occur such as unexpected outages, or more extreme weather events that will bring volatility back to the market and will drive higher percentage of customers looking to start the lock-in prices. Andrew Kuske Okay. That’s helpful. And then, maybe a broader question for Brian, if I may. Just as it relates to receiving compensation from the government, you practically — does there have to be some kind of agreement in principle at least between yourselves Canadian Utilities and TransAlta and three legacy coal owners in the province and size on the nature, or the form of the compensation model? Brian Vaasjo So Andrew very, very good question. As we look forward, there will certainly be elements, or process that are defined by the government and the arbitrators. So for example, they may define that they will meet with companies separately as opposed as a group. But our understanding is on the issue of compensation. They will be directly engaging list of the four coal companies and actually no other industry participants. So that’s quite positive. We would expect to be in common meetings. And I think we all of the coal companies do recognize that the more we are aligned on our views and our expectations and principles likely the more successful will be. So there are certainly efforts underway to — and they always has been efforts among the coal companies from time-to-time two work together on these issues. Andrew Kuske Okay. Thank you. Operator All right. Next we have a question from Robert Kwan from RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Robert Kwan Good morning. Maybe I will just follow-up on that last answer Brian just around alignment kind of almost being necessary to push this forward at least a little bit faster. If I look at what you are saying around G4, G5, almost seems like you’re implying that the energy-only market works that you don’t see the need for major changes in market structure and I think it’s very similar to what you said in the past. But we are also hearing some very different things, or potentially different views from some of the other companies. So I’m just wondering if you can reconcile whether you guys are changing your view, or you think they maybe changing, how did you get this alignment going forward? Brian Vaasjo So maybe a way to sort of characterizing. And again, this is my personal view. Is there — is some skepticism in the market in general amongst some players and more broadly than just the coal folks and as we go through this process whether the other end there will be a viable energy-only market in Alberta. Our view is that with the appropriate decisions and policies established there will be. And what we’ve seen from the government so far in terms of indicating the directions that they are going, we do believe that will leave a very viable energy-only market. I think that the other companies, and again, this is my view, our — perhaps less skeptical or more skeptical that those principles will be enacted sort of as is and that the market will survive on the other side. So I don’t think it’s a — I don’t think it’s a view that others would not invest in the energy-only market. I think recently TransAlta has been making some announcements that aren’t premised on there being a different market. It’s just a different outlook as to whether or not the energy market — energy-only market will be as fundamentally sound as it has been over the last 15 years. In our view that will be. Again, if the — some way government follows through on what they established as the direction that they are going. Robert Kwan Understood. So are you willing to move to the more contracting position, or are you expecting if there is going to be alignment that people have to come to you or to come to where you are? Brian Vaasjo You mean that wanting a fully contracted market going forward? Robert Kwan Well, or even just a contracted market for new generation, some sort of hybrid market? Brian Vaasjo Well, there certainly is hybrid market so to speak on the renewable side. And we are — and again, given the direction that the government is going, we see that as being very complementary to the energy-only market. When it comes to decision on the building of natural gas plants, we would see that’s necessarily market does not contracted — I mean it can bilaterally among load and generators, but not becoming a contract market in a broad basis. And so that’s where we see that there is a difference, but — certainly on the contracted side, or on the renewable side, we do anticipate that will be a significant component that will be contracted. And we will participate in that happily. Robert Kwan Okay. If you just look at how this relates under G4 and G5, I guess, first, can you push the date back further is this good as it gets. And then, if there is kind of some clarity that it will be an energy-only market and that the market structure is largely unchanged. What type of price signals from that energy-only market are you looking — I assume you are not going to be looking at spot, but more so forward curve. Do you have a sense as to what levels and do you need to have enough term — like how much term given there is a lack of liquidity, are you going to meet to underpin that decision? Brian Vaasjo So when we look at that overall picture, there was a couple of questions there tied together. We do need to see the appropriate pricing, and of course, issues like compensation and so on being satisfactorily resolved. But assuming that’s all the case and we are looking at just the economics and a good energy-only market. I think all parties, forecast in the 20, 20-ish timeframe with the retirement of coal plants and even with low growth in the province that you will see power prices in that’s a $65 and up range. And where natural gas prices are today that’s appropriate price signals to move on forward on something like G4, G5. Robert Kwan Okay. So just needing to see something in the curve and that expectation versus actually needing to lock-in something for term? Brian Vaasjo Well, and just to remain you that half of our investment in G4, G5 is contracted — going to have contracted going into it. SO our merchant position is relatively small. Robert Kwan And then, can you push the turbine agreement back any further or is this it? Brian Vaasjo The way its — and as its — as we’ve discussed over the last couple of years, those contracts were put together to be very flexible. And what we are up against now, isn’t the flexibility of the contract because it certainly can get pushed out further. But you start running into logistical window problems and small push out in time now might result in the completion of the project being a year down the road. So that’s more — we are not against the contractual issue right now, it’s more logistical issue of delivering the project in a timely basis. Robert Kwan Okay. So basically you have to take the turbines, or make the decision by the beginning of June or you could be into mid-2017? Brian Vaasjo If you reached a point where you were going to actually miss the window on completion, you could defer it — defer the decision, but your completion would be deferred a significant amount of time. You’re talking about numbers of months as opposed to kind of months — for month or day for day as it exists now. Robert Kwan Okay. Got it. Thanks very much. Operator All right. Next question comes from Linda Ezergailis from TD Securities. Please go ahead. Linda Ezergailis Thank you. I just want to follow-up on questions around how you are looking and acting over the long-term. Given some of the uncertainty around market structure et cetera, are you going to hold-on and I realize there is not much liquidity in 2018. But, how comfortable are you hedging or adding to your position in an environment where you don’t even know what the structure or the rules are? Bryan DeNeve Well, I think when we look at what has been announced and I will reiterate what Brian said earlier. The recommendations that have been put forward to the government are all aligned and all worked towards maintaining the structure of the Alberta market as it has worked in the past. And as we move forward and made decisions on selling power forward, our belief is that that market structure will be allowed to continue to work as it has and we will make those decisions accordingly. I think in terms of the real key on the market structure is the timing of renewable procurements aligning with the timing of coal retirements. Everything we’ve heard from the government is that — that’s how it will proceed. So when we look for signals in the market when we see increasing prices adequate for a new build that sits in the 2020 timeframe that’s following 1000 megawatts retirement of coal. So we’ll be making our investment decisions and/or hedging decisions on that basis of the market design continuing to operate as it has. Linda Ezergailis Okay. Thank you. And just a follow-up question, it was good to see that wind is still on standby, can you give us a sense of what the timing might be for an agreement? Brian Vaasjo Linda — so we are actually as we speak we are working with — we are working on agreements like it’s not that we are not participating in an auction and we will see the results. We are actually moving on the commercial side of it. So I mean discussion and agreements can always fall apart for whatever a different kinds of reasons we are proceeding down the path of having something in the relatively near term. Linda Ezergailis Okay. That’s good to hear. And any updates on some of the other opportunities that you are looking at whether it would be in the U.S. or be BC or Saskatchewan? Brian Vaasjo Well, we continue to see opportunities this year in terms of, I will call the element portfolio in the U.S. and that’s likely one or optimistically maybe two given various PPA offerings in the states that we are operating in or potentially operating in. On the Canadian side certainly and depending on the details of the timing that the Alberta government comes out with we are preparing to have wind farm or wind farms bid into PPA process or actually erect process as early as one could be called. And that may well happen this year in terms of calling of a process and moving forward. So we see opportunities here in Alberta. Don’t really see many opportunities outside of that in Canada that are immediately on the horizon. Linda Ezergailis Okay. That’s helpful. So just another follow-up to that, when you think of capital allocation given that you have some pending investment possibilities, how do you think of share buybacks versus kind of keeping your powder dry for these opportunities? Brian Vaasjo So certainly as we have increased number of opportunities on the horizon, our preference is to allocate our capital to those growth opportunities over doing something like share buyback. So at this point in time that will be our priority for capital as we move forward and those opportunities materialize. Linda Ezergailis Thank you. Operator All right. Next we have a question from Paul Lechem from CIBC. Please go ahead. Paul Lechem Thank you. Good morning. Just revisiting some of the comments on Genesee 4 and 5, Brian just — it seems there’s a — to fully delay the notice to proceed on the turbine beyond the 90-day period. I’m just wondering why — why not wait — what are the downsides of waiting until the compensation discussions have been completed, that there is more clarity on the outcome? Is there a concern that competitive projects could jump in front of you in the queue, or I mean given — it seems like yours is most ready out of all of them. Is that a reality? I’m just trying to understand the timing decision of why not wait a longer period? Brian Vaasjo So Paul, one of the successes in the Alberta market is, generally speaking, the timing of new generation coming in even though it’s been driven by a market other than with the Shepard facility, which was driven by initially other economic considerations. The market has been well-served by-timely generation. As we see it in — when you have 900 megawatts of retirement taking place in 2019 that creates a significant hole and we see it as — it is appropriate for the industry to respond and to fill that hole. And so, that’s the primary element, is there’s a right time for generation — specific generation to come into the market. So, our view is that if we defer it a small time now on the front end, what it actually does is it moves the tail end schedule significantly again in terms of a number of months and you start running into a period of time in the province when — I’ll say the supply isn’t as it should be. Having said that, are we concerned about losing a position of being first in the market and so on, or losing what I call as the pole position? No. We think we’re very, very well positioned, and again, ready to pull the trigger at any point in time as opposed to then having to develop agreements and so on and start execution. So that’s not a concern and that’s certainly not a reason why we would pull the trigger on a project when we’re not comfortable. And some of the words that you were using was suggesting that we would pull the trigger when we were potentially not comfortable with compensation or the market going forward. That’s not the case. We need to be comfortable before we pull the trigger. So and if that means the project is deferred and if that means ultimately the project doesn’t get done because we “lose the pole position,” so be it. But, we’re not going to invest capital when we don’t feel comfortable in the investment environment. Paul Lechem That’s helpful. Thanks. Appreciate those comments. And just on the front end PPA, we have seen ENMAX return one of the PPA’s to the balancing pool. Just wondering your thought process, I mean you are 100% hedged in 2016, so I guess it’s not an issue for 2016, but beyond that what are your thoughts around the value of holding onto the Sundance PPA rather than returning it? What are going to be your decision points around that? Brian Vaasjo So, certainly any considerations around the Sundance PPA is subject to confidentiality provisions both in terms of the PPA and with our power syndicate partners. So we can’t comment at this point in time on anything specifically regarding the Sundance PPA. Obviously, we continue to valuate all of our existing assets and looking at ways to optimize around those assets. Paul Lechem Okay. Thanks Brian. Operator All right. Next we have a question from Jeremy Rosenfield from Industrial Alliance. Please go ahead. Jeremy Rosenfield Yes. Thanks. Let me just start by following up on that last line of questioning, without going into details on Sundance and that asset specifically, can you just sort of comment in terms of where you see power prices developing over the 2017 to 2020 timeframe relative to where the forward curve is right now and your sort of interpretation as to what prices might actually look like? Bryan DeNeve Our perspective is that the curve forward prices in Alberta are a fair reflection of expectations around where prices will settle. So certainly, at this point in time we think that is a reasonable representation. Jeremy Rosenfield Okay. And you did have some disclosure in the MD&A about payments on the Sundance PPA, somewhere between $100 million and $150 million over the term and I’m just curious, if that’s the total or the annual amount? You can get back to be me afterwards. That’s okay. Bryan DeNeve No, no. That’s fine. That reference is actual to the reference as the annual amount. Jeremy Rosenfield Annual. Perfect. That’s what I thought. Just with regard to the G4 and 5, in terms of the extension, just a little cleanup there, is there actually any cost on your part in terms of having to extend the supply with the window to find the supply agreement, or is it really a no-cost? Brian Vaasjo So just to be clear, the supply agreement is signed. We have an agreement in place and part of the provision is as we move the timeframe, there are escalation elements in that agreement. So it does cost to move the project out. Jeremy Rosenfield Okay. In terms of what that does on the — let’s say total potential return on the project, are you — is that immaterial? Brian Vaasjo The escalations are in line with kind of higher end of inflation type numbers. So it doesn’t for small periods of time it doesn’t have a material impact on the project. Jeremy Rosenfield Okay. And then maybe just one other — Brian Vaasjo But again, recognizing that’s a fairly large project. You could consider that the cost of moving it is in the millions of dollars, but again, it’s in hundreds of millions of dollars in terms of the nature of the project. Jeremy Rosenfield Sure. That’s what I was thinking. My question is really around if you look at the total return that you expect to achieve on a percent basis, let’s say we are talking about a basis points here or there. Brian Vaasjo Yes. Jeremy Rosenfield Right. Okay. And just to clean up in terms of the K2 wind project there was just some disclosure in terms of a return of capital in the quarter specifically and I wanted to just confirm that this was a specific to the fourth quarter and it’s not something that you expect to be receiving on a go-forward basis? Bryan DeNeve Yes. In terms of the portion related to the capital fees that would be just related to one time in Q4. Jeremy Rosenfield Okay. Perfect. Thank you. Those are my questions. Operator Right. And the last question we currently have in the queue comes from Ben Pham from BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Ben Pham Thank you. One question from me. On your hedges for 2016, the 100%, and I wanted to ask, the last time you guys came into the year with that higher percentage of hedges, the following summer you were short on production and it did significantly impact your results. So knowing that have you done anything different this year when you look at what happened before just on the hedges, how you structured that? Are you pretty much assuming that there could be some potential risk but it’s worth it because you are protecting a downside? Brian Vaasjo I think that’s a fair characterization, Ben. So being fully hedged, yes, we do take on some higher operational risk. But given how well the fleet has been performing and we look at that risk relative to protecting against the downside in the low price environment, that’s a trade-off that we make. But certainly as we look forward given how strong the assets are operating, we see that as being a reasonable risk for us to take. Ben Pham Okay. Thank you. Operator All right. And we don’t seem to have any further questions in the queue at this time. Randy Mah Okay. If there are no more further questions we’ll conclude our call. Thank you, everyone for joining us today and for your interest in Capital Power. Have a good day. Operator Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes Capital Power’s fourth quarter 2015 conference call. Thank you for your participation and have a nice day. Copyright policy: All transcripts on this site are the copyright of Seeking Alpha. However, we view them as an important resource for bloggers and journalists, and are excited to contribute to the democratization of financial information on the Internet. (Until now investors have had to pay thousands of dollars in subscription fees for transcripts.) So our reproduction policy is as follows: You may quote up to 400 words of any transcript on the condition that you attribute the transcript to Seeking Alpha and either link to the original transcript or to www.SeekingAlpha.com. 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SCANA’s (SCG) CEO Kevin Marsh on Q4 2015 Results – Earnings Call Transcript

Operator Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing by. I will be your conference facilitator for today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the SCANA Corporation Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers’ remarks, there will be a question-and-answer period. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded on Thursday, February 18, 2016. Anyone who does not consent to the taping may drop off the line. At this time, I would like to turn the conference call over to Susan Wright, Director of Financial Planning and Investor Relations. Susan Wright Thank you, and welcome to our analyst call. As you know, earlier today, we announced financial results for the fourth quarter and full year of 2015. Joining us on the call today are Jimmy Addison, SCANA’s Chief Financial Officer and Steve Byrne, Chief Operating Officer of SCE&G. During the call, Jimmy will provide an overview of our financial results and Steve will provide an update of our new nuclear project. After our comments, we will respond to your questions. The slides and the earnings release referenced to in this call are available at scana.com. Additionally, we post information related to our new nuclear project and other investor information directly to our Web site at scana.com. On SCANA’s homepage, there is a yellow box containing links to the new nuclear development and other Investor Information sections of the Web site. It is possible that some of the information that we will be posting from time-to-time may be deemed material information that has not otherwise become public. You can sign-up for e-mail alerts under the Investors section of scana.com to notify you when there is a new posting in the nuclear development and/or other Investor Information sections of the Web site. Finally, before I turn the call over to Jimmy, I would like to remind you that certain statements that may be made during today’s call are considered forward-looking statements and are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties as shown on Slide 2. The Company does not recognize an obligation to update any forward-looking statements. Additionally, we may disclose certain non-GAAP measures during this presentation and the required Reg G information can be found in the Investor Relations section of our Web site under Webcasts & Presentations. I’ll now turn the call over to Jimmy. Jimmy Addison Thanks Susan, and thank you all for joining us today. I’ll begin our earnings discussion on Slide 3. GAAP earnings in the fourth quarter of 2015 were $0.69 per share, compared to $0.73 per share in the same quarter of 2014. The decrease in earnings in the fourth quarter is mainly attributable to the negative impacted weather on electric margins as well as on gas margins in our Georgia business. Lower gas margins also reflect $0.07 per share of loss margins due to the sale of CGT early in the year. These losses were partially offset by higher electric margins due primarily to a base load review act rate increase and customer growth as well as lower depreciation expense as a result of new depreciation study and lower O&M expense due primarily to labor savings and the impact of the sales of CGT during the first quarter of 2015. Note two that abnormal weather decreased electric margins by $0.14 per share and $0.02 per share versus normal in the fourth quarters of 2015 and 2014 respectively. Please turn to Slide 4. Earnings per share for the year ended December 31, 2015 were $5.22 versus $3.79 in 2014. The improved results are mainly attributable to the net of tax gains on the sales of CGT and SCI, higher electric margins due primarily to a base load review act rate increase and customer growth, as well as lower depreciation expense and O&M as described earlier. These were partially offset by lower electric margins due to weather, lower gas margins primarily due to loss gas margins of $0.23 per share resulting from the sale of CGT and the impact of revenue on the Georgia business and normal increases in CapEx related items including interest, property taxes and share dilution. Although electric margins reflected a negative $0.13 per share due to weather year-over-year abnormal weather increased electric margins in both years accounting for $0.08 per share in 2015 compared to $0.21 in 2014. Slide 5, shows earnings on a GAAP adjusted weather normalized basis. Earnings in the fourth quarter of 2015 were $0.83 per share compared to $0.75 per share in the same quarter of 2014. Full year earnings were $3.73 per share in 2015 compared to $3.58 per share in the prior year. As a reminder GAAP adjusted weather normalized EPS excludes the impact of abnormal weather on electric margins and the net of tax gains on the sales of CGT and SCI from the first quarter of 2015. Abnormal weather on gas margins is not adjusted in this measure as gas margins weather normalized for the North and South Carolina businesses and the direct impact of abnormal weather on the Georgia business is generally insignificant. However, the extremely mild weather in the fourth quarter in 2015 was seen in the business’ stand alone results as I’ll discuss later. Now, on Slide 6, I’d like to briefly review results for our principle lines of business. On a GAAP basis South Carolina electric and gas companies’ fourth quarter 2015 earnings were down $0.01 per share compared to the same period of 2014. The decrease in earnings is due to lower electric margins due to abnormal weather and higher expenses related to our capital program including interest expense and property taxes. These decreases more than offset increases due to the continued recovery of financing cost through the BLRA customer growth in both the electric and gas businesses, the application of the previously mentioned new depreciation rates and lower P&M due primarily to labor savings. For the full year of 2015, earnings were higher by $0.12 per share due to increased electric margins primarily from the continued recovery of financing cost through the BRLA and customer growth, improved gas margins due to customer growth and the application of the new depreciation rates. These items were partially offset by the effective abnormal weather on electric margins and higher expenses related to our capital program including interest expense, property taxes, dilution and continued increases in depreciation exclusive of the impact of the depreciation study. Although weather in both years contributed favorably to electric margins versus normal. 2015 was milder than 2014 with weather contributing $0.08 of margin versus normal in 2015 compared to $0.21 in 2014. PSNC Energy reported earnings of $0.17 per share in the fourth quarter of 2015 compared to $0.16 per share in the same quarter of the prior year primarily due to higher margins from customer growth. For the year-ended December 2015, earnings are $0.38 per share compared to $0.39 per share in the prior year. SCANA Energy our retail natural gas marketing business in Georgia saw the decrease in fourth quarter earnings of $0.06 per share in 2015 over the same quarter of last year primarily due to lower throughput and margins attributable to the extremely warm weather during the fourth quarter of 2015 as compared to 2014, partially offset by lower bad debt expense. For the 12 months ended December 31, 2015 earnings were down $0.05 per share compared to the same period of 2014, due to same drivers as the quarter. On a GAAP basis, SCANA’s corporate and other businesses reported a loss of $0.01 per share in the fourth quarter of 2015, compared to $0.03 in the comparative quarter of the prior year. Lower interest expense of the holding company and increased margins at our marketing business were primarily offset by foregoing earnings contributions from the subsidiaries that were sold during the fourth quarter of this year. For the 12 month period, these businesses reported earnings per share of $1.36 in 2015 compared to $0.01 loss in 2014. Excluding the net of tax gains on the sales of CGT and SCI of $1.41 per share, GAAP adjusted weather normalized EPS was down $0.04 from the prior year due primarily the foregone earnings from the sale of the businesses earlier this year offset by lower interest expense at the holding company and increased margins on our marketing business. I would now like to touch on economic trends in our service territory on Slide 7. In 2015, companies announced plans to invest over $2 billion with the expectation of creating over 6,000 jobs in our Carolinas territories. The Carolinas continue to be seen as a favorable business environment and we’re pleased by the continuous growth in our service territories. At the bottom of the slide, you can see the national unemployment rate along with the rates for the three states where SCANA has a presence and the SCE&G electric territory. South Carolinas unemployment rate is now at 5.5% and the rate in SCE&G’s electric territory is estimated at 4.7%. At the top of Slide 8 you can see the South Carolina employments statics as of December 2015 and 2014 over the course of 2015 South Carolinas unemployment rate has dropped over a percentage point from its level at the end of 2014. December of 2015 also marked all time highs for the number of South Carolinians employees and in the labor force. Our particular interest in the testing to our state strong economic growth almost 80,000 or 3.8% more south Carolinians are working today than a year ago. So another ways had the labor force not increased during 2015 the unemployment rate would be approximately 3%. The expansion of the labor force is simply evidence of the confidence of some of the workforce to reenter the market and the positive migration to the state of South Carolina. As depicted on the bottom of the slide United Van Lines recently released its annual mover study for 2015 with tracks migration patterns state to state. For the third consecutive year South Carolina finished ranked second in terms of domestic migration destinations co-operating our realized customer growth statistics. North Carolina has also been ranked in the top five for the last three years. Slide 9 presents customer growth and electric sales statistics. On the comp half of the slide is the customer growth rate for each of our regulated businesses. SCE&G’s electric business added customers at a year-over-year rate of 1.5%. Our regulated gas businesses in North and South Carolina added customers at a rate of 2.5% and 2.7%, respectively. We continue to see very strong customer growth in our businesses and in the region. The bottom table outlines our actual and weather-normalized kilowatt hour sales for the 12 months ended December 31, 2015. Overall, weather-normalized total retail sales were up 1.3% on a 12-month ended basis. In conjunction with the continued improvement of economic conditions in South Carolina, the past few quarters have shown an accelerating improvement in usage in the residential market. And now please turn to Slide 10, which recaps our regulatory rate base and returns. The pie chart on the left presents the components of our regulated rate base of approximately $9.6 billion. As denoted in two shades of blue, approximately 86% of this rate base is related to the electric business. In the block on the right, you will see SCE&G’s base electric business in which we are allowed 10.25% return on equity. The earned return for the 12 months ended December 31, 2015 in the base electric business is approximately 9.75%, meeting our stated goal of earning a return of 9% or higher to prevent the need for non-BLRA related base rate increases during the peak nuclear construction years. We continue to be pleased with the execution of our strategy. As a reminder we are allowed a return on equity at 10.25% and 10.6% in our LDCs in South and North Carolina respectively. In response to the normal attrition in the earned returns in our North Carolina business, yesterday the PSNC notify the North Carolina utilities commission of its intention to file a rate case. We plan to file the detailed case within the next 60 days where more clarity will be provided. As you will recall in South Carolina if the earned ROE of the gas business for the 12 months ending in March falls outside of range of 50 basis points above or below the allowed ROE then we will have to adjust rates under the rate stabilization act in June. Slide 11 presents our CapEx forecast. This forecast reflects the Company’s current estimate of new nuclear spending through 2018 and has been updated to reflect what was filed in our quarterly BLRA report which also reflects the amended EPC that was announced in October of 2015. At the bottom of the slide, we have recapped the estimated new nuclear CWRP from July 1 through June 30 to correspond to the periods on which the BLRA rate increases are historically calculated. Slide 12 presents the transition payments information and an expected timeframe for our filing with the public service commission of South Carolina. Once these events are complete we will update the CapEx schedule and the corresponding financing plan. And now please turn to Slide 13, to review our estimated financing plan through 2018. As a reminder we have switched to open rocket purchases instead of issuing new shares to fulfill our 401k and DRIP plans at least until we have fully utilized the net cash proceeds from the sales of CGT and SCI. We do not anticipate the need for further equity issuances until 2017 and again the election of the fixed price option would likely changed planned equity issuances after 2016. Now these are our best estimates of incremental debt and equity issuances, it is unlikely that these issuances will occur in the exact amounts or timing as presented as they are subject to changes in our funding needs for planned project expenses. We continue to adjust the financing to match the related project CapEx on a 50/50 debt and equity basis. On Slide 14, we are reaffirming on 2016 GAAP adjusted weather-normalized earnings guidance as 3.90 per share to 4.10 per share with an internal target of $4 per share. We continue to be cautiously optimistic about our long-term view and are increasing the lower band of our long-term growth rate from 3% to 4%. We are also resetting base year to 2015 GAAP adjusted weather-normalized EPS of $3.73. Therefore our new GAAP adjusted weather-normalized annual growth guidance target will be to deliver 4% to 6% earnings growth over the three to five years using a base of 2015 GAAP adjusted weather-normalized EPS of 3.73. This increase represents our projected earnings momentum driven by our BLRA filings our stated goal to manage base retail electric returns and our view of the economy, balanced with our continued assumption of the impacts of energy conservation and efficiency standards. I also wanted to mention that earlier today we announced an increase of $0.12 in our dividend rate for 2016 to $2.30 per share a 5.5% increase. We continue to anticipate growing dividends fairly consistent with earnings while staying within our stated pay out policy of 55% to 60%. And finally on Slide 15, we are very pleased to report that in late December we successful completed the syndication of an extended credit facility. The additional liquidity is important to our nuclear construction project and accelerated CapEx spending at PSNC. The committed lines of credit now totaled $2 billion. I want to thank our banks for their enthusiastic support of our liquidity needs and therefore the support of our nuclear expansion plans. We are pleased that we continue to receive and excellent response for a nuclear construction from our equity and debt investors as well as our banks. And I’ll now turn the call over to Steve to provide an update on our nuclear project. Steve Byrne Thanks, Jim. I’d like to begin by addressing the status of the settlement with the consortium. Slide 16 presents the outline we have shown in previous discussions as a recap. As you may be aware, Westinghouse closed in the transaction to acquire Stone & Webster from CB&I at the end of December and for beginning work as self-contracted construction manager at the new nuclear construction site on January the 4th. We are continuing our analysis of the fixed price option and will include the input from Fleur as they progress. As a reminder we have until November 1st of this year to unilaterally elect the fixed price option or not and we plan to take as much time as needed to ensure that we make the most prudent decision. Regardless of which scenario we chose one the decision has been made we will file our petition with the public service commission to amend the capital cost and schedule for the project. As Jimmy said earlier we expect to reach a conclusion in the second quarter. Moving onto some of the activities at the new nuclear construction site, Slide 17 presents an aerial photo of the site from September of 2016. I’ve provided this photo to give you a view of the layout of the site. And I’ve labeled both Units 2 and 3, as well as many other areas that make up what we call the table top. On Slide 18, you can see a picture of the Unit 2 Nuclear Island and this picture you can see module CA20 on the right hand side of the slide along with the containment vessel being number 1 which has placed on and welded to the lower bowl. Several rewards structural modules have now been placed inside the Unit 2 containment vessel. As we’ll discuss shortly you can also see the beginnings of the shale building as three courses have now been placed. Slide 19 shows a picture of the Unit 3 Nuclear Island. Module CA04 was placed inside the containment vessel lower bowl back in June and the auxiliary building walls continue to build. As you’ll see shortly we are making progress with the fabrication replacement of containment vessels structural modules on both units. Slide 20 presents a schematic view of the five large structural modules that are located inside the containment vessel. I’ve shown this schematic numerous times before because this expanded view gives you a better feel for how CA01 through 05 fits spatially inside of the containment vessel. As you may know, we have now placed CA01, CA04 and CA05 for Unit 2 and CA04 for Unit 3. Slide 21 shows a picture of the Unit 2 CA02 module, CA02 is a wall section that forms part of the in-containment refueling water storage tank. As mentioned last quarter, CA02 has now structurally complete and awaiting installation. Slide 22 shows a picture of the Unit 2, CA03 which is the west wall of the in-containment, we’re filling water storage tank. 15 of CA03’s 17 sub modules are on site and 12 are now on our assembly platform. Slide 23 shows a picture of the Unit 3 module CA05, this module comprises one of the major walls section within the containment vessel, fabrication and the Unit 3 CA05 has been completed and that has been staged outside of the module assembly building or MAB. Slide 24 shows a picture of the Unit 3 CA20 which is the auxiliary building module that will be located at outside and adjacent to the containment vessel. 68 of the 72 sub modules are on site and 20 of those sub modules have been upended on the construction platform for fabrication in the MAB. Slide 25 shows a picture of the beginnings of the Unit 3 module CA01, module CA01 houses the steam generators and the pressurizer and then forms the refueling canal inside the containment vessel. Currently we have 15 of 47 sub modules on site and 3 of those sub modules are upright and being loaded together in the MAB. Slide 26 shows the progress of the Unit 2 Shield Building panels, a first 6 panel course displays during the first half of 2015 and the fourth quarter of 2015, the second 6 panel course was set on top of the first course and then at the beginning of this month we placed the third 6 panel course. As shield building panels are placed and welded together concrete has core insight of the panel to create the shield building. Concrete has been placed in the first two courses. Slide 27 shows a couple of pictures from the Unit 2 Turbine Pedestal concrete placement from December 25, overall more than 2,300 cubic yards of concrete was placed over the course of about 20 hours. Slide 28 shows a picture of the single phase for the 230 ton Unit 2 Main Transforms. There are four such transformers for each unit and here you can see one of the four being rigged for replacement adjacent to the Unit 2 turbine build each unit will have these four plus 6 other transformers also in placing the two and all time then received in the three. On Slide 29, you see the New Nuclear CapEx projected of the vessel construction. This chart shows CWRP during the years 2008 to 2020, reflecting the Q4 2015 BLRA quarterly report that we filed in February. As a reminder, the BLRA report now reflects the cost from the October 2015 amended EPC. As you can see, we’re probably in the middle of the peak nuclear construction period the green line represents the related to actual and projected customer rate increases under the BLRA and is associated with the right hand access. Please now turn to Slide 30. As we mentioned during our third quarter call in September, the PSA approved a rate increase of $64.5 million, a new rate were effective for bills rendered on and after October 30th. Our BLRA filings for 2016 are showed at the bottom of the slide as you can see originally filed our quarterly status report for the fourth quarter and our next quarterly update would be filed in mid May. Not depicted here is the update filing addressed earlier as the timing of that petition didn’t get [indiscernible]. And I want to mention that the results of an analysis performed at the direction of South Carolina Office of Regulatory Staff. As you may be aware the ORS contracted an independent accounting firm to determine whether the revised rate provision under the base load review act is cost beneficial to SCE&G customers consistent with our clients. This independent attestation concluded in January and reaffirmed a significant cost advantage that the BLRA has envisioned when the law was originally passed this report is available on the ORS’s Web site and linked to the independent accounting firm report can be found in the regulatory documents section of the nuclear development area of SCANA’s Investor Web site. That concludes our prepared remarks, we’ll now be glad to respond any questions you might have. Question-and-Answer Session Operator We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Jim von Riesemann of Mizuho Securities. Please go ahead. Jim von Riesemann A couple of questions on the 4% to 6% growth rate, can you just elaborate again on how that’s calculated, how we should think about the out years because if somebody would do a linear analysis 2016 would be less than the 4% if you are just growing ’16 versus ’15? Did I make sense on that, I have been on too many conference calls today? Jimmy Addison The first part of your question, made sense so how we calculated is the average of the annual increases over that three to five year period. So we’re comfortable that that average growth and our plan to-date is at that 4% to 6% level. Now the second part I’m not sure I followed. Jim von Riesemann Yes, I don’t think I followed it either, but it’s just really to get to ’16 versus ’15 because you’re not on a 4% plain year-over-year Especially with your guidance of $4? Jimmy Addison You are saying it’s above it right? Jim von Riesemann Yes. Jimmy Addison Yes. And so — but that’s why we considered over the entire period not just any one year. So every year wouldn’t necessarily be within that cone, but overall the average would be. Jim von Riesemann Okay that I understand. So the question then becomes with the fixed price option and your updated CapEx on the slide. How much of that is reflective, is anything reflective in I guess either your growth rate or for the fixed price option for the — in your CapEx or even your earnings growth rate? Jimmy Addison So the CapEx is based upon the amended agreement it does not include the fixed price option. And that’s what our growth rate is based upon, I’m not sure that if we would adopt that option that it would have a material impact on the earnings growth rate, but if we do later this year and if it’s approved we’ll certainly consider that. Jim von Riesemann Okay. And then I guess I have a question on bonus depreciation. Jimmy Addison Sure. Jim von Riesemann Previously, that was about 75 million a year. Have you updated those numbers given the tax extenders from December? Jimmy Addison Yes, that still is a good reference of 75 million a year in the base business. And of course what’s different now is the five year view. So did not have that in the past. So there is a — obviously potential for the new nuclear units themselves to qualify for bonus depreciation, although not at the 50% level because it phases down to 40% and 30% and 18% and 19% respectively. So that’s the only thing that’s outside of the $75 million estimate. Jim von Riesemann Okay. And then I guess the last question really maybe is for Steve. How — if you think about all the components to build the two summer units. How much of them are still say overseas and still need to be shipped to the place, or I mean most of the components are on-site at this point in time? Steve Byrne A majority of the major components are on-site, I would say about 85%, and the remainder would be either overseas or domestic production of the major components left outstanding that would be overseas see you wanted a — we’ve got two same generator to do some or one of those is being shipped and the other one is nearing completion. I think all the turbine generator stuff is on-site, condenser stuff on-site, containments on-site. We’ve got couple of passive heat exchangers they are being reworked at in Italy those should be finished shortly. We have cone pumps those are domestic, but those won’t show up till 2017. That’s most of the major stuff. Now we’ll get into sub-modules, we still have some of the sub-modules for the structural modules particularly for the trailing unit, unit three, they are still in fabrication. And so for example CAO1 is being fabricated between Toshiba in Japan and IHI in Japan, there are 47 different sub-modules that are associated with that unit. ’15 have been delivered ’16 in the 47 have shift, it just takes a while for them to get here and so 25 or yet to be shipped. So we’ve got almost half of those are either on-site or on the ocean. So I think I’d like to more to characterize it 85% of major equipments on-site and of the remaining stuff, a lot of it is physically complete, some of it is waiting to be shipped. Some of it’s on the ocean now on its way to our site. Operator Our next question comes from Julien Dumoulin-Smith of UBS. Please go ahead. Unidentified Analyst Hi, this is Mike Weirton, a Couple of questions, one did you say what was causing the drop off in industrial growth weather adjusted? Jimmy Addison No, I really didn’t address it’s not a significant change just showing down there about half a percent. The one thing that it makes it difficult to really address this quarter is as you will probably remember from the national news is we had an historic five year in simple South Carolina and they were expensive impact on our industrial customers. Everything from simple is logistics of workers not being able to get to plan to industrial in-takes malfunctioning, because of the extremely high water to impacts on rail. So it’s really difficult to quantify that so I am not too alarmed by one period here of slightly down. Unidentified Analyst Okay. And what’s causing the steep drop in SCE&G’s on the GAAP side, on its ROE versus PSNC Yes I can see when you look at the September numbers almost hasn’t changed in north Carolina but south Caroline has come off? Jimmy Addison Yeah, it’s a fortune of the obviously the right day’s additions as well as the operating costs etc involved in the units and as well as the timing I believe the south Caroline is as of September 30 and the PSNC number is I believe at 12.31 we just have a thought the south Carolina report, yes we haven’t updated that one. Unidentified Analyst And on the nuclear side the CapEx looks like it is about 200 million higher in the peak spending year ’17 and ’18 and it seems to flow through right into the clip and I am just wondering does that mean that, does that result in higher BLRAs rate increases going forward and is that as a results of the new, it is all as a result of the settlement right? Jimmy Addison Yes so the CapEx numbers haven’t changed at all from what we presented in the third quarter and just assume just the amended agreement not the fixed price option. All that’s change is the timing of when they occurred in this presentation Michael so that’s the only adjustment. Unidentified Analyst Okay, it’s just a timing issue. Okay all right and I guess thank you. Operator Our next question comes from Travis Miller of Morningstar. Please go ahead. Travis Miller You mentioned the second quarter you want to make the decision then on the fixed price option, what do you think, give me a timeline and thoughts on why you wouldn’t wait until November and then secondly if you do make that decision in the second quarter what’s the regulatory schedule look like from that point? Jimmy Addison Let me start and then let Steve jump in. We said that it’s like to be Q2 that’s our best judgment but Steve also said in the opening comments that we have until November and if we think we need all that time we will take all that time. So, we’re just giving you our most likely estimate of when we think we’ll have a good assessment of Fleur’s input et cetera that we’ll be able to make that, to make that call. And at the point that we feel like we have that and have our information together we’ll make a filing with the Public Service Commission and then they have their statutory six months to rule on that and that part sometime in the middle of that six months we would be before them to present our information ask for their support. Steve Byrne It is Steve one that would be take us long as you’ve got to make the decision which we fully understand but we did in an ex-parte fashion brief our Public Service Commission on the two options that we would have going forward and what we told them was as soon as we will complete with our valuation we will come back to them with the option that we selected so we tend to do that. One complication that you might not see that makes my life a little more difficult in the interim I have to sort of key to set the books and if I have to base assumptions on both we are exercising fixed price option and we are not exercising the fixed price option and if we’re going to exercise one of the other it’s a lot simpler for me like the drop the other set of books. so it take all kind of commercial issues off the table and just make the life a lot of easier. Travis Miller So, you did the, you briefed the regulators there is been any conversation or interaction with interveners or other groups that you think might have opposition to so your fixed price option or is it a preference to one or the other? Steve Byrne We’ve done a number of brief things some of which were public, we’re briefing for the legislature for examples and we are briefings with the governors and advisor council and some intervenes were present during the ex-parte briefing we had last November with the Public Service Commission but there was no interaction with them at that point of time. So, we have and will continue to have some interactions but we don’t know who all the interveners might be until we file something and given the opportunity to intervene. So, it’s not a surprise but we won’t have any more conversation with our Public Service Commission until we make a filing we are not allowed to have any conversation on above topic. Operator Our next question comes from Steven Byrd of Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead. Steven Byrd I wanted to just talk about Toshiba for a moment Toshiba has been in the press off late and on a high level just wanted to understand as you think about their credit position and sort of safe guards and protections for you how should we think about way that you can sort of receive protection against the potential deterioration of credit quality at Toshiba? Jimmy Addison Yes, well let me just talk briefly about some contract provisions in a conceptual form and then I’ll let Steve talk some about operationally about the project. So, we do have some security provisions in the contract if their ratings fall below a certain grade and they have forget those now and we have initiated that security now for Company’s other reason I am just not going get into the details of what that is, how much that is et cetera but it is essentially meant to handling kind of payment obligations where they will not be able to pay sub contractors things of that nature as well as performance obligations if they don’t went up to their terms of the contract. So, there is our best kind of the financial construct just in the contract that we have pulled the trigger on and I’ll just let Steve talk a little about the project itself. Steve Byrne Yes we’ve been tracking the situation at Toshiba obviously very large company I think the Japanese government we love to see them fail but they have submitted obviously our restructuring plan we are hardened to see in the structuring plan they intend to stay in the energy business while they do intend to shed some of the business are going to stay in the energy business which would include nuclear such a good thing for us. Also we are glad to see that with the significant changes in the leadership and the Board at Toshiba that the persons we have been largely dealing with in the nuclear arena survive that turmoil again we think that’s a good thing. I do believe that Toshiba has been successful at securing some debt from some large Japanese banks just recently. Bankruptcy also definitely maturely mean that the things would stop other various kinds of bankruptcies not that we think it will get to that point it definitely assume things that the site will stop. In addition to the sort of the financial protections and Jimmy just alluded to we did actually forecast situation like this back and we were negotiating the EPC contract not necessarily that we thought that the larger corporation Toshiba might have financial difficulties but we are really focusing on perhaps the smaller corporations like Westinghouse and [indiscernible] might have some financial difficulties so we do have in the contracts some provisions to Escrow intellectual property such that if that were to be a session of operations by the contractor that we could finish the plan on our own. Steven Byrd That’s really helpful. Since they should be been able to Sanmen project in China just wondered if yet any update there in terms of this status of Sanmen. Steve Byrne I don’t have any recent updates on Sanmen we have a team that’s supposed to go over there I think it’s in the April or May timeframe so will get some more firsthand information then my understanding is that we still anticipate that Sanmen 1 will come online sometime this year. Operator Our next question comes from the line of Andrew Weisel of Macquarie. Please go ahead. Andrew Weisel Few questions, first one is about the new long-term growth rate. Could you maybe talk outside of whether major pickup in the economy what are some factors that will potentially take you to or above the high end of that 6% level? Jimmy Addison Yes I think the largest kind of at risk variable from a positive or a negative standpoint Andrew is probably what happens with usage on electric on the electric side unrelated to weather so what goes on in that area I mean it’s obviously related to the economy but what do people do with every day electric consumption and that’s been very difficult for our industry to model the last several years it flattened out and was slightly up for us in 2015 that surprised us in a good way a little but that continues to be the most difficult thing for us to model. Andrew Weisel Anything on the capital side obviously there are Nuclear CapEx that is constantly being adjusted but anything in the base business that might get you like I said that towards or above the high ends or potentially a thing that can do wrong that might take you below that low end? Jimmy Addison No we feel pretty good about our CapEx plan I mean setting aside the nuclear as you said in your question which has the down adjustment due to the project we were doing in the base business the things we need to do to have safe reliable power but we’re not doing a great deal of things beyond that in order to maintain no base rate increases during this period or pressure on returns if we were not to have increases. PSNC is probably the biggest story outside of that with the growth in that area particularly in the transmission area and of course we have said earlier that we found yesterday a notice of a pending rate increase their but that is fairly well laid out that could change some based prices deal and compression in that kind of thing overtime but I don’t expect it to vary a great deal. Andrew Weisel Then my other question is about the dividend obviously a bigger increase there then what we’ve seen in the past few years and that takes you right to the midpoint of your targeted payout ratio if we assume the midpoint of the EPS guidance going forward should we expect the dividend to grow more at that kind of 5% range which is the midpoint of the EPS growth or would it be more likely to revert back to the earlier 3% to 4% range that we would have seen in the past several years? Jimmy Addison Yes if you will bear with me let me give you 30 seconds of history here. When the recession hit and earnings slowed a great deal we got outside of our payout policy of 55% to 60% we get up in the close to 63% to 65%. We continued to grow dividends during those next few year but we grew them at about half the way of the earnings growth. So that we can get back within the policy and now we are comfortably back within the policy and our position at this point is we expect to grow those dividends fairly consistent with earnings growth. Operator Our next question comes from Dan Jenkins with The State of Wisconsin Investment Board. Please go ahead. Dan Jenkins First of all I was just curious on your financing plan for 2016 and I show about a 1 billion for SCE&G I was wondering if you could give any insight of the timing would that be like throughout the year or first half, second half? Jimmy Addison Yes so, today we would model in roughly half of it about mid year and half of it near the end of the year. That is definitely going to need to be dynamically adjusted to which option we end up electing being and the payment schedule that goes on with that, we’ve talked about on the last call as well as briefly on this one so that’s really going to cause adjustments in that schedule so I’m fairly sure it will adjust from this but today’s best guess is about half midyear and about half near the end of the year. Dan Jenkins Going to the nuclear unit, and in particular I was stuck to the report you just filed for the fourth quarter report and in particular mentioned how the Shield building is one of the primary critical path of things, items that’s potentially had I guess some of those modules you’re having trouble with or whatever size, wonder if you could expand on that what the timing as you think with that kind of [indiscernible] will be exiting resolved? Jimmy Addison Yes I think the Shield building items when you say resolved I think we’ve resolved much of our Shield building issues there, the biggest issue that we had really was that — we anticipated that the fit up of this first of the kind item are taking these individual panels that come from Newport News Industrial or NNI and then putting them together at the site loading them up within the tolerance of and filling them with concrete was going to be very difficult, we’ve done a lot of mark ups, to receive our half the panels for the first unit may be a 25% for the second unit. The placement so far like you characterize is going a little better than we had anticipated and so we’ve got 16 courses of steel panels that go in a ring that we eventually will fill with concrete. We’ve placed the first three of those courses already, the first two have been welded fit and put concrete in and the third of course we recently placed that we’re welding that but again that’s going I think better than we had anticipated. So, now our focus since that is a critical path is ensuring that we get the sub modules the pieces of the panels from NNI in a timely fashion and so Westinghouse has taken over the contract it is really nice to have so that’s now our exclusively our Westinghouse to NNI deal, we think it’s good. And then the delivery schedule looks to be good and their negotiating a mitigation strategy and in fact I’ll be going to NNI tomorrow to talk through the mitigation strategy that will accelerate some of those panel delivered to the site so. I think the Shield building right now it’s going pretty well, but it is our focus area because it is critical path. Dan Jenkins And then similarly talks a little bit about secondary critical path being the CA20 and CA01 the CA03 are those like parallel paths to the Shield building issues or are they dependant on the Shield building path? Jimmy Addison No, not — they’re not necessarily dependant on the Shield building but they would come in right in line after the Shield building so once we demonstrate proficiency with Shield building than we could focus on whatever’s next so we’re always looking at primary, secondary, tertiary critical paths. So, the secondary path is as you mentioned that CA20 module for the trailing Unit 3, we’ve already set CA20 Unit to our facility we did come up with a interesting mitigation strategy for the CA20 module whereas on the first unit on Unit 2 we set it as one piece, on the second one we’re going to set it in two half. So, that will save us probably a couple of months in the fabrication and that’s important because it actually forms a part of the concrete formwork for the rest of the plant so it’s important that we set that half of that and use it is as form concrete while we’re working on the second half and then set the second half. So, that said right now so that was — that the team onsite came up with that plan, we’re executing on that plan and we’ve to set that first half CA20 for the second unit in Q1 — last Q1 and then we should set the second half of CA20 bringing the three probably early in Q2. Dan Jenkins And somewhat related to that you mentioned some I don’t know if you have the report in front of you on Page 15 of it, in the middle of it kind of related to the CA01 and CA20 that and the current schedule the date doesn’t support the construction schedule for the Units and so how I guess what is how is that being impacting in overall schedule, how should we think about that, how much can that be mitigated? Jimmy Addison Yes I think, a good example of mitigation is the plan that we came up with to split the CA20 module into two halves and CA01, we’re looking at similar things, we’re looking to expedite the delivery of the sub modules from IHI and Toshiba in Japan. Toshiba obviously has all the incentive in this world under the agreement that we negotiated in October to expedite whatever they can so that they both have the sensitive parent company of Westinghouse so they are both the families that they don’t do things on time and there are significant bonus and centers that they finish on time so they’ve got as much incentive as we could possibly put into an agreement. So we are looking to accelerate the schedule for the modules coming out of Japan, for CA01 and we are implementing strategy to slit CA20 and set in two halves instead of one large piece [indiscernible] CA20 portion. Operator Our next question comes from Jonathan Reeder of Wells Fargo. Please go ahead. Jonathan Reeder One quick point of clarity, so with Fleur’s assessment of the schedule kind of comes back, the current schedule isn’t feasible, how does that work then, do you have to negotiate and other emended EPC contract before, you would file that with the commission, so that how the benchmarks the milestones are set appropriately in the next approved BLRA? Jimmy Addison Jonathan I think the short answer is, it depends on far out they are if you remember with our last order from the public service commission, we had a plus 18 months for each of the milestones, so as long as you stay within that 18 months, we don’t need to go back in on the schedule. So, really it’s going to depend on how far but what I more envision that Fleur might come back and say in order to get the schedule on time to accelerate this you might have to bring in more resources than we have on the current plan, so we’re going to see just a 4,000 employees, that they might come back and say they need to get 4,500 employees, that input might drive us towards opting for the fixed price because more people mean more dollars. Jonathan Reeder Right, so that would impact, I guess the non fix price option and win more creditability towards slight in the fixed price, that’s the way to think about it? Jimmy Addison Correct. Operator Our next question comes from Michael Lapides of Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead. Michael Lapides A couple of nuts and bolts questions on the gas side of the business. First of all at PSNC as you filed later this spring, when would rates go into effect, does that actually get a six or a 12 month process in North Carolina? Jimmy Addison 6. Michael Lapides Okay, so rates would go and no later than [indiscernible] next year and that’s historical looking rate case there, can you do it for it or a [indiscernible] measureable? Jimmy Addison It’s a bit about, it’s a base historical test here but you can update for equipped as well as cap structure concurrent with the information being presented and any settlement being discussed or hearing before the commission. Michael Lapides Got it and on the GAAP side of SCE&G when would you file and do the rate stabilization act taking out revenue increase, when does that normally happen and when would that go into effect? Jimmy Addison Yes, so that runs through the end of the heating season, the measurement period through the end of March and we make the filing in May of each year and any adjustment either way for 50 basis points out would be effective the 1st of November for the implementation of the heat, typical heating season in the fall, although that did not happened this past year. Michael Lapides Got it, understood and then one question, just want to make sure understood that your comments about Toshiba and some of the financial and credit metric issues, Toshiba has and you mentioned that you’ve already started the process with Toshiba to cover some of the security related funds did you do that because of their downgrades did you do that because Toshiba is having issues paying some of their local subcontractors or some of the vendors or suppliers what was the main driver for starting the process now? Jimmy Addison Hi Michael this is Jimmy, I’ve commented on that earlier, so clean it up to you, that’s just procedural is just an option afforded that is under the contract, we’ve had no issues with that we’re well aware at all of any subs being paid or anything like that. Operator Our next question comes from Claire Tse of Wolfe Research. Please go ahead. David Paz Hi this is actually David Paz. Sorry if I missed this earlier, does your 4% to 6% EPS growth rate assume any bonus depreciation impact on the new nuclear units when they come into service in 2019 and 2020? Jimmy Addison The guidance assumes the bonus depreciation on the base business. We have really not contemplated yet or model exactly what might happen with the bonus depreciation on the new unit themselves. So a lot of consideration has going into that long production tax credit et cetera to make sure maximize the value for the customer. David Paz I see. So it’s not essentially haven’t the modeled in the 4% to 6%. Jimmy Addison Right. David Paz Okay. Do you happen to know or kind of find somewhere in the BLRA filings what the cumulative cost per Unit 2 would be through 2019 as you currently stand today? Jimmy Addison Well on the amended contract is about the total units is about 7.1 billion. So you can roughly estimate 50% of that. David Paz Okay. Jimmy Addison David, are you looking for what’s been spent to-date? David Paz Well, not just to-date, but if I, I mean obviously you have the BRLAs by year, but if I knew what just Unit 2’s portion was through that, through ’19 as well as trying to get more exact number, but obviously I can ballpark it? Jimmy Addison Yes. We’ve not spoken about between Unit 2 and Unit 3 so yes you have to ballpark it. David Paz And then just can you just go through the process for how each unit goes into rate base. So is there formal filing with the PSC when each unit is completed. How is that process? Jimmy Addison So what we do is we have to prepare a projected operating cost year if you will. So an implementation year the first phase of the BRLA is to get plans proved. The second phase happens each year on the revise phrase in the third is the operating cost going in. And so we’ll have to project what the depreciation and the operating costs et cetera are and that does not require a hearing just requires us to present it to the office of regulatory staff and to the commission like we do the revise rates each year. Operator Our next question comes from Paul Patterson of Glenrock Associates. Please go ahead. Paul Patterson I wanted to touch base to you on the just on the last question on the BLRA and the bonus depreciation. It sounds like you guys were trying to analyzing the PTC in the impact of taking bonus and what have you. And I’m just trying to get a sense as to what that process is kind of like and sort of some of the factors that sort of go around if you follow me and how that might change the four to six potentially? Jimmy Addison Well, the only real impact is likely to be just on financing itself and any temporary benefits on financing. I mean bonus depreciation is simply accelerating a deduction that you’re going to get at some point in the future to an earlier point in time. So it’s you’re not going to change your total taxes per books, this is and changer differ taxes. So if you end up with the larger deferred tax credit, because of the bonus depreciation you can end up with lower rate base there in the short run. But in the very short run it’s just going to have some financing benefits to it just like the bonus depreciation does on the base business. Paul Patterson Well that is what I was wondering, I mean, I’m just wondering whether or not, I mean I understand that. I guess what I’m wondering is there any potential impact in the near-term, if the bonus depreciation was factored into. Another word how should we think about the potential sensitivity in the near-term, if bonus depreciation, my understanding is not be factored in now, if it were to coming. Is there any, can you give us any rule of thumb or any thought process as to, if there would be impact and what that impact might be? Jimmy Addison No. We’re talking about something is going to that would potentially be a cash impact in the second half of 2019. So I don’t really see in the near-term impact on that. Paul Patterson Okay. So in another words, it’s a bonus depreciation, there is no potential for take. It would happen then regardless one would be happening anytime earlier in terms of your analysis regardless? Jimmy Addison That’s right. That’s correct. Paul Patterson Okay. Thanks so much for the clarity. And then just finally on the sales growth, I believe you guys in your last IRP were around 1.4% for retail sales growth. I think just over the long period. Is that still pretty much what you guys are looking at? Jimmy Addison Yes, we’re going to be filing a new IRP, one of the next few week space and we’re just reviewing and after that earlier this week. And I don’t think where we add at this point is materially different but we will be filling that in the next few weeks. Operator Our next question comes from Mitchell Moss of Lord, Abbett. Please go ahead. Jimmy Addison Mitchell, we can’t hear you. Mitchell Moss Sorry about that. Jimmy Addison Okay. Mitchell Moss Just a follow-up and some of the questions on Toshiba’s credit ratings and downgrades, in terms of next steps there are further downgrades for Toshiba. Is there a — is it kind of like incremental steps or it is a single Toshiba’s rating moves down one more moth there is sort of one or two more steps or is there sort of Toshiba has just all several rating options from here before you guys would be to I guess do further action regarding taking any security actions? Jimmy Addison Right so the contractual on a security provision I mentioned earlier their ratings meet the criteria for us to like those or they don’t and they’ve met those so there are no further impacts there is no greatest dealing? Mitchell Moss So I guess you would so in other words so the ratings where they are at now you haven’t needed to take any, there haven’t been any security provisions activated or there have been? Jimmy Addison There have not been in the past, we recently initiated those and they have 60 days for those to be fulfilled. Mitchell Moss Okay. Jimmy Addison And those are all other provisions once fulfilled. Mitchell Moss Okay. And just on a more of a technical question, your Slide 13 I believe yes Slide 13 shows debt refinancing at SCANA in 2018 are 170 million utility is 550. Last quarter you had combined it at about 720 all that SCANA and so I just wanted to find out to better understand I see the 550 in terms of just that at the utility I just want those understand 170 million of SCANA debt is? Jimmy Addison That relates to South Carolina generating company but it is one plant that operates solely for SC&G all the power goes to SC&G so it’s just the separately financed plant but it’s solely related to we call it Genco something like a generating company. Mitchell Moss Okay. So, it’s not a really holding company debt. Jimmy Addison That’s right but it technically is a subsidiary of SCANA and that’s the reason we presented it that way. Operator And this concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Jimmy Addison for any closing remarks. Jimmy Addison Well. 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